Machiavelli wrote in “The Prince” about the similar dilemma of advice. If you let everyone give you advice, you seem like a pushover, but if you don’t take any advice, you’ll probably do something stupid. His recommendation was to have a circle of people who you take advice from, and to ignore everyone else.
A similar system could work well for offense. If you want to be high-status, when most people lower your status, get offended. But for a select few (probably the people who you work with when you’re seeking truth in some form or another) practice never taking offense, as the original post suggests. Ideally, these people would know they could offend you, so they wouldn’t censor potentially helpful ideas.
If someone lowers your status and you act offended, then it makes you look weak because it confirms that they’ve successfully hurt you. What you could do in those situations is to offer them advice on how not to offend you—promote their communication skills. That way you reassert your authority by determining the standard of dialogue you allow around you and potentially improve them as a resource.
That said. There’s a difference between discounting a certain noise level of offence—I’ll try not to be offended if I believe you’re honestly offering criticism and don’t meant to offend me. And discounting all offence.
I would suggest that the former is vastly preferable. If someone rocks up to you and starts tearing a strip off it seems worth getting offended over.
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I’m not sure I buy into Machiavelli’s idea that accepting advice lowers your status though. Well, not entirely anyway.
In old Chinese courts courtiers used to advise their Emperors by means of heavenly prophecy. In—I forget which king’s reign it was but in France—a king was famous for having two people on opposing sides of an issue debate it and then saying ‘we shall see’, and that was how he got his advice, he was one of the most powerful, at least in political terms, kings that France ever had IIRC.
So there are ways of mitigating it without having to shut yourself off completely from advice, as Machiavelli supposes.
And then a lot of it depends on how you react to the advice, and how it’s given—even if it’s given directly in person. If someone comes up to you and is all pro-social: “Hey we could do this too and it might work even better!” “Fantastic, why don’t you come on board and head up that part of it?” That’s potentially something that’s been good for both of you and made more people want to work with you and share their ideas—and that gives you more power, not less.
Working with others is a very complicated sort of thing. I think the most important lesson of it may well be that power tends to be lent by others, for their own purposes. If you have ‘power’ over a bunch of people but none of them want to work with you your effective power is often very close to 0.
I don’t think Machiavelli would actually disagree with you to any large extent (although he does not consider delegation here). He writes:
A prince, therefore, ought always to take counsel, but only when he wishes and not when others wish; he ought rather to discourage every one from offering advice unless he asks it; but, however, he ought to be a constant inquirer, and afterwards a patient listener concerning the things of which he inquired; also, on learning that any one, on any consideration, has not told him the truth, he should let his anger be felt.
There’s also an OB discussion about why taking advice might lower your status.
If you take that Machiavellian idea one step further… How about shifting the view of who to take advice from. People can only make you more like themselves… so only take advice, in any particular area, from someone who has ALREADY ACHIEVED the results you are seeking… otherwise, what is the point?
Also, though, your boss should not ‘become offended’ if you treated them as a drinking buddy… that would be unprofessional on HIS part… he should have a discussion with you, in a rational manner, about the roles that you both are to play in your working environment. I do not agree that people have certain areas where they would ‘benefit’ from being offended. Being offended often simply validates the person being offended, not matter what the offended person retorts with. If someone is rude to you in some way, and then you are rude back, it just makes the first rude person feel justified in their being rude to you in the first place.
If someone is INTENDING to be insulting to you, then rising to the occasion only proves to them that they have power over you. If they were NOT intending to be insulting to you, then all you have done is proven how much of a boob you are.
People can only make you more like themselves… so only take advice, in any particular area, from someone who has ALREADY ACHIEVED the results you are seeking… otherwise, what is the point?
Feeling offended is a mental lever that causes status-restoring behavior. If you can recognize when you need to restore your status and do so without feeling offended, it’s simply better for you.
Machiavelli wrote in “The Prince” about the similar dilemma of advice. If you let everyone give you advice, you seem like a pushover, but if you don’t take any advice, you’ll probably do something stupid. His recommendation was to have a circle of people who you take advice from, and to ignore everyone else.
A similar system could work well for offense. If you want to be high-status, when most people lower your status, get offended. But for a select few (probably the people who you work with when you’re seeking truth in some form or another) practice never taking offense, as the original post suggests. Ideally, these people would know they could offend you, so they wouldn’t censor potentially helpful ideas.
If someone lowers your status and you act offended, then it makes you look weak because it confirms that they’ve successfully hurt you. What you could do in those situations is to offer them advice on how not to offend you—promote their communication skills. That way you reassert your authority by determining the standard of dialogue you allow around you and potentially improve them as a resource.
That said. There’s a difference between discounting a certain noise level of offence—I’ll try not to be offended if I believe you’re honestly offering criticism and don’t meant to offend me. And discounting all offence.
I would suggest that the former is vastly preferable. If someone rocks up to you and starts tearing a strip off it seems worth getting offended over.
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I’m not sure I buy into Machiavelli’s idea that accepting advice lowers your status though. Well, not entirely anyway.
In old Chinese courts courtiers used to advise their Emperors by means of heavenly prophecy. In—I forget which king’s reign it was but in France—a king was famous for having two people on opposing sides of an issue debate it and then saying ‘we shall see’, and that was how he got his advice, he was one of the most powerful, at least in political terms, kings that France ever had IIRC.
So there are ways of mitigating it without having to shut yourself off completely from advice, as Machiavelli supposes.
And then a lot of it depends on how you react to the advice, and how it’s given—even if it’s given directly in person. If someone comes up to you and is all pro-social: “Hey we could do this too and it might work even better!” “Fantastic, why don’t you come on board and head up that part of it?” That’s potentially something that’s been good for both of you and made more people want to work with you and share their ideas—and that gives you more power, not less.
Working with others is a very complicated sort of thing. I think the most important lesson of it may well be that power tends to be lent by others, for their own purposes. If you have ‘power’ over a bunch of people but none of them want to work with you your effective power is often very close to 0.
I don’t think Machiavelli would actually disagree with you to any large extent (although he does not consider delegation here). He writes:
There’s also an OB discussion about why taking advice might lower your status.
If you take that Machiavellian idea one step further… How about shifting the view of who to take advice from. People can only make you more like themselves… so only take advice, in any particular area, from someone who has ALREADY ACHIEVED the results you are seeking… otherwise, what is the point?
Also, though, your boss should not ‘become offended’ if you treated them as a drinking buddy… that would be unprofessional on HIS part… he should have a discussion with you, in a rational manner, about the roles that you both are to play in your working environment. I do not agree that people have certain areas where they would ‘benefit’ from being offended. Being offended often simply validates the person being offended, not matter what the offended person retorts with. If someone is rude to you in some way, and then you are rude back, it just makes the first rude person feel justified in their being rude to you in the first place.
If someone is INTENDING to be insulting to you, then rising to the occasion only proves to them that they have power over you. If they were NOT intending to be insulting to you, then all you have done is proven how much of a boob you are.
Learning from other people’s mistakes.
Feeling offended is a mental lever that causes status-restoring behavior. If you can recognize when you need to restore your status and do so without feeling offended, it’s simply better for you.
The best approach is to be conscious of what will advance your goals and act accordingly.
You may think a cop is not recognizing your status but you may be best served by letting it pass and getting out of the situation more quickly.