Therefore, I do think it is worth the effort to avoid speaking of women in ways that are objectifying. I don’t think it really takes that much effort once one is aware of it...
Don’t get me wrong: I don’t object to being considerate. I just don’t think it’s appropriate to try to enforce being considerate. It tends to backfire, for one thing, as people generally don’t like being told what to do, thereby creating perverse incentives. It also tends to make people on both sides of the discussion “flip the bozo bit” and assume the people on the other side are just jerks, instead of any increased understanding being reached.
(Of course, in that respect, there’s an extent to which I did the exact same thing I criticized Alicorn for! Mea culpa.)
Don’t get me wrong: I don’t object to being considerate. I just don’t think it’s appropriate to try to enforce being considerate. It tends to backfire, for one thing, as people generally don’t like being told what to do, thereby creating perverse incentives. It also tends to make people on both sides of the discussion “flip the bozo bit” and assume the people on the other side are just jerks, instead of any increased understanding being reached.
(Of course, in that respect, there’s an extent to which I did the exact same thing I criticized Alicorn for! Mea culpa.)