I’m not inviting people to join the Mormons. The OP’s curriculum would be better covered by joining a gym, meditation group, public speaking club or graphic design course, which don’t have the problems you mention.
I brought up the Mormons because I seriously considered joining them (and rejected it for the above reasons).
I think you’re fundamentally misunderstanding the nutrient being sought out if you think that the list of four things you mention (individually or all together) would actually satisfy the relevant hunger.
I thought the point was learning skills and interacting with people. If the real point is filling a tribe shaped hole in your soul, I can only repeat my question to Kaj. Are you sure that yearning for a tribe is an emotion that serves your interests?
Are you sure that yearning for a tribe is an emotion that serves your interests?
Given how yearning for a tribe is a “powerful, fundamental, and extremely pervasive motivation” (old paper, but later research has only served to further confirm the general notion), I would guess yes; for me personally, “being in a tribe” seems very much like the strongest unmet terminal goal that I have.
That seems like proving too much, since I don’t yearn for a tribe. Are you sure you aren’t confusing your social needs for a specific dream of fulfilling them?
A motivation can be “extremely pervasive” without being universal. (very few things in psychology are truly universal) You may not share the yearning, but I’ve certainly run into plenty of people who do.
Are you sure you aren’t confusing your social needs with a specific way to fulfill them?
That is possible, and I have made that kind of a mistake before, but if there’s an alternative way of fulfilling them I haven’t found it.
I think you misunderstand the point. The goal is not to develop skills, the goal is to create an emotional web of support that comes from being a bona fide member of a tightly-knit tribe. You don’t (normally) get that at a gym or a public speaking group.
I’m not inviting people to join the Mormons. The OP’s curriculum would be better covered by joining a gym, meditation group, public speaking club or graphic design course, which don’t have the problems you mention.
I brought up the Mormons because I seriously considered joining them (and rejected it for the above reasons).
I think you’re fundamentally misunderstanding the nutrient being sought out if you think that the list of four things you mention (individually or all together) would actually satisfy the relevant hunger.
I thought the point was learning skills and interacting with people. If the real point is filling a tribe shaped hole in your soul, I can only repeat my question to Kaj. Are you sure that yearning for a tribe is an emotion that serves your interests?
Given how yearning for a tribe is a “powerful, fundamental, and extremely pervasive motivation” (old paper, but later research has only served to further confirm the general notion), I would guess yes; for me personally, “being in a tribe” seems very much like the strongest unmet terminal goal that I have.
That seems like proving too much, since I don’t yearn for a tribe. Are you sure you aren’t confusing your social needs for a specific dream of fulfilling them?
A motivation can be “extremely pervasive” without being universal. (very few things in psychology are truly universal) You may not share the yearning, but I’ve certainly run into plenty of people who do.
That is possible, and I have made that kind of a mistake before, but if there’s an alternative way of fulfilling them I haven’t found it.
It seems to me like there are flavors of ‘interacting with people’ that require tribe-mates.
Having a tribe is one of my interests.
I think you misunderstand the point. The goal is not to develop skills, the goal is to create an emotional web of support that comes from being a bona fide member of a tightly-knit tribe. You don’t (normally) get that at a gym or a public speaking group.