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post-rational distractions
Thanks for the writeup. The very next day after, the phrase “interpretive labour” occured naturally in my internal monologue. It’s as if I’d been carrying around the concept hole / shape for quite a while.
“ahh finally, I’ve a way to refer to that thing.” I wonder what thinking looks like before you have a handy pointer. You have to move the felt sense around all the time? A word coining seems like the creation of a central Blegg/Rube node in the network.
Wonder if some folks find interpretive labour enjoyable. Currently, I enjoy stream of consciousness writing much more than writing blog posts.
For me talking to non ingroup folks can sometimes be tiring because of the need to do interpretive labour / translate out of my native brain-speak on the fly. Though some people I know don’t get tired by this.
As well as his original: YOU NEED MORE LUMENS (Mon, 12/07/2015).
You’ve created a monster.
huh, neat. thanks.
erratum: I think you mean $10,000 instead of $10.000 in the second paragraph.
It felt slightly dated eg: power poses, proposing social commitment instead of internal trust (idc).
If you wrote this, imo your writing has seriously improved. :).
It could be because your thoughts moved in an *agrees with me* direction though.
obvious epiphanies
When was this document written?
Might want to state what a $2260 monthly gap means in terms of a patreon target. Perhaps, having one clear number might motivate folks. eg 6k/month or something.
pledged $20. edit: reduced to $10 for personal finance reasons.
I’d been watching an improv comedy show on YouTube for some time. A family member walked past, and feeling somewhat embarrassed, I switched to an entertaining maths video. Pretty much immediately a wave of tiredness hit me, so much so I had to rest my head on my arms.
The lotus nature of the videos meant I had been ignoring my need for sleep for at least an hour.
I think lotus eating requires a lack of awareness. You feel that quiet tension, as if something’s a little off. But once you’re in, game over.
Looking became far less mysterious. Thanks.
Yay!
Do you think this elephant to elephant communication is a similar thing to what Valentine was talking about in Kensho?
Canberra Rationality Exercises
awesome.
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This post really captured my attention. So much so I read it and most of the comments thrice.
Two of Valentine’s claims:
A) Certan types of things are meta-cognitive blindspots (cfar jargon). For example, alcohol impairs your driving ability, it also impairs the ability to tell whether or not you’re okay to drive. Given you’ve had N drinks, the feeling of “I’m okay to drive” is not to be trusted. Another example is recognising good outfits, If you’re lacking in fashion sense you can’t tell whether or not the clothes you are wearing look good, or even notice if your outfits are a problem.
It’s a blindspot on the object level and the meta level. So how does your epsitemology deal with this? There’s this new skill X however you need a certain ammount of X to realise X is a skill worth having.
B) There’s this thing “Looking” that’s hella beneficial. Really hard to tell you why.
I’m on board with A. So here’s my take on “Looking”:
My first time focusing, was a new kind of experience. In some sense I’d been doing it all along. But also it was totally new.
Looking at the phone screen is perhaps the talky part of my brain. You can’t do focusing with only your verbal models. I’ve had a few experiences trying to teach focusing with similar responses to the ALEX dialogue above. You need to consult your gut. And feel your response to an issue physically and seek its name. This can’t be done with only your verbal monalogue.
So I’m left in the positon, that there’s some quality/flavour of experience I’m missing. It’s seriously benficial. Or the process of updating your previous epistemology in this direction is benfical. I can see that these types of updates are very difficult to convey in words. Yet I don’t have the qualia. alas. :)
What kinds of things are good to Look at? My guesses:
your own thinking (as Val stated earlier), your close relationships, group dynamics, the world. Anything I’ve missed?
Great talk!
I feel excitement at noticing the existence of models that I don’t yet have. As many of your “one-liners” felt like whole threads of their own:
The legacy code of floppy disks in nuclear silos. And how one might place greater trust in older systems.
The somewhat “naivety” of American society toward fake news. And whether that’s a feature of high trust societies.
That perhaps the replication crisis may be viewed as a strength of the field of psychology for noticing the problem.
That CPU production is only possible due to the very large economies of scale. Is cpu production economical at the scale of 50 million people?
I also felt fear that we may be inside the Roman Empire so to speak.
It’s fascinating that we use very different thinking when looking at the history / future / present. And that theories are evaluated against different criteria because of how our psychology treats different timeframes.
I’m guessing there’s an equivalent of the status quo bias’ “reversal test” that can be deployed for this temporal bias. The perspective you’re stuck in because you happen to be a resident of the 21st century. Pretending you’re a greek slave or a christian monk or so on.