I like to think I’m a pretty decent judge of character and fairly impartial. Actually, let me be honest. I was not partial. In your favor. I have no idea who the fuck Duncan Sabien is. I guess some celeb in this space?
Even if this post without the comments were the only thing I’d read, I’d still come away with the same take.
This one after Duncan blocked you.
I feel like you’re not hearing me. I haven’t heard things through the grapevine. I’ve read the full Google doc from Duncan and your recent social media posts. I feel like I have just about all of the context I could possibly have. Do you think it is absolutely impossible someone could read the Facebook messages and conclude that you are in the wrong here? Which is more likely, that there is a massive conspiracy against you or that people genuinely disagree?
ask questions
People have! Like “klob you seem like you’re making a lot of major life decisions recently, is everything alright?” or “klob you’re posting a ton on social media, way more than anyone else I know, even other influencers. Is everything good?” And they get blocked or yelled at every single time.
What is the rational decision to come to when most people, including long time people unfamiliar with the drama, are concerned?
Do you have someone IRL like a therapist that you can show this post and all other supporting documentation for a decision, absent any prior bias?
What explanation do you have for the adnonymous message about Duncan’s children?
I completely agree with the first 3 graphs.
I somewhat disagree with the oppositional drive theory that you’ve described here, if only for the fact that I do not believe that klob thinks he has done anything wrong here. Having read through the messenger messages he posted as evidence, I can only conclude that he genuinely believes that the messages are exculpatory and not indicative of the behaviors he is accused of.
klob, I do want to emphsize:
It pains me so much that they have not done the same with me.
This is them doing the same, and saying you need help.
As someone who knows you IRL, I was somewhat hoping that you could put this behind you man :/
I ctrl + f’d for “adnonymous” or anything related to the email threat you sent Duncan at 5 AM. Unsurprisingly it went unaddressed in this post as well as the other explainers. I feel like you’re not getting it, people are scared of you due to the way you are acting. I’ve internally debated leaving this comment as a message multiple times in your inbox but did not want to get put on blast on your social media.
There’s nothing in this post that justifies that action, nor the doxxing. I’ve read through the FB messenger conversation and at no point did I come away thinking you were in the right here. You say that Duncan doesn’t know you. Duncan doesn’t need to know you to be scared of you.
And for the record, I am not a member of the rationalist community nor did I know who Duncan was before this whole thing started. I found it through your own posts on social media, and went through feelings of confusion, shock, and then a growing sense of horror as I read through everything. I have no personal stakes in the outcome of these events beyond hoping that things can improve.
Please take your own advice at the end of this post, print copies of the messages, then take them to a trusted therapist or neutral third party to have them make a judgment call. I understand that this has been very isolating, but that can be repaired.
Best of luck.
I recognize they are anonymous but I am capable of using inferences, textual clues, and context to make a reasonable guess. Can you affirmatively say “I did not write that message”? That’s literally all I care about here.