I work at the Centre for Effective Altruism as a contact person for the EA community. I read a lot of LessWrong around 2011 but am not up to date on whatever is happening now.
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They make special pens for this. https://www.amazon.com/Mental-Health-Non-Lethal-Flexible-Point/dp/B00KALP5Z4
The other obvious workaround, if the facility allows, is to lend them a pen to sign something with and then take it back. One of the doctors I worked with did have someone disassemble the pen and steal the ink part from it during this process, which the doctor didn’t notice until afterward, but he can’t have been paying super close attention.
It depends a lot on the meeting. In some “popcorn” meetings there’s a lot of talking with pauses between; in some the default is silence.
>”It seems to me the Quakers would also run into this problem at least sometimes. I’m curious how they deal”
I once saw someone else stand up and say that we’d heard what they have to say and it was now time for some silence. (Context was that this was a person who habitually talked a lot in meeting, and was starting to repeat themselves during a long message.)
It says “In New Zealand, the choice to attend a single-sex school is not a result of a family’s desire that their child attend a religious or military institution; choice is primarily determined by which school the pupil can most easily walk to.” Looks like about 20% of government-run secondary schools are currently single-sex; not sure what it was like in the 70s or so when this was done. But I could imagine that in cases where parents particularly want a particular school they still chose based on things like whether it was single-sex and not only on what was closest.
Yes, the book was published in 2020. The parts about genetics emphasize that at the time they did the research (significantly earlier), testing was a lot more labor-intensive and expensive which is why they used a method that nobody would use now. The authors’ paper about the MAOA stuff came out in 2002. But if the method is also now considered to be mostly bogus, I wonder if they couldn’t resist publishing research that they’d already done even if the method wasn’t considered good anymore.
Book notes: “The Origins of You: How Childhood Shapes Later Life”
The new text is finally up: https://www.centreforeffectivealtruism.org/our-mistakes
Talking with you was one of the prompts to write it!
And now omicron is at 74% of US cases!
Experiences raising children in shared housing
I’ve now added info on this to the post about being a contact person and to CEA’s mistakes page.
Sorry I missed this—we’re working on a couple of updates to the mistakes page, including about this. I can let you know once the new text is up.
To add detail about my mistake:
When you asked if you could confidentially send me a draft of your post about Will’s book to check, I said yes.
The next week you sent me a couple more emails with different versions of the draft. When I saw that the draft was 18 pages of technical material, I realized I wasn’t going to be a good person to review it. That’s when I forwarded to someone on Will’s team asking if they could look at it instead of me.
I should never have done that, because your original email asked me not to share it with anyone. For what it’s worth, the way that this happened is that when I was deciding what to do with the last email in the chain, I didn’t remember and didn’t check that the first email in the chain requested confidentiality. This was careless of me, and I’m very sorry about it.
I think the underlying mistake I made was not having this kind of situation flagged as sensitive in my mind, which contributed to my forgetting the original confidentiality request. If the initial email had been about some more personal situation, I am much more sure it would have been flagged in my mind as confidential. But because this was a critique of a book, I had it flagged as something like “document review” in my mind. This doesn’t excuse my mistake—and any breach of trust is a serious problem given my role—but I hope it helps show that it wasn’t intentional.
I now try to be much more careful about situations where I might make a similar mistake.
CEA regards it as one of our mistakes that the Pareto Fellowship was a CEA program, but our senior management didn’t provide enough oversight of how the program was being run. To Beth and other participants or applicants who found it misleading or harmful in some way—we’re sorry.
This was indeed a big screwup on my part. Again, I’m really sorry I broke your trust.
If it’s a shrub, it’s a shrub that grows 30 feet in the air on the branch of a tree? Herbaceous seems right to me. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mistletoe
This blew my mind!
A couple nitpicks on the chart:
- you said strawberry has a tree ancestor but none of its ancestors on the chart are trees
- pineapple is colored as “definitely a tree,” but it’s a bush
One of the chapters deals with getting rid of behaviors you don’t want, with eight methods (some of which she doesn’t recommend). For example, training an incompatible behavior: if don’t want your dog to beg at the table during dinner, train your dog to lie down someplace else during dinner. Or “shape the absence”—reinforce everything that’s not the unwanted behavior.
I don’t think I have anything much to add in the way of specific tips.
I do think I’m a worse parent when I have less support (when I was home on maternity leave with a newborn and toddler, or when Jeff has been traveling and I’ve been alone with both kids for longer stretches than usual.) I agree that having childcare available, either paid or any kind, can help you be more patient and in-control.
oh right, about the public speaking / communication type skills.
I think it’s often worth making a comparison to “what am I trying to achieve in my relationship with my partner? With another adult, you’re not trying to mold them into a better human. You’re trying to enjoy the time you have together now, and next month, and over the decades.
There’s a lot of parenting that makes a difference to how much you both enjoy the next 18 years. Like the “teaching them not to whine” thing—you will both be happier if they have other ways of getting their needs met.