Clearly average Nobel laureates are much like average women.
CharlieSheen
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That isn’t a Happy Death Spiral. It is a disgraceful mindkiller, sure. But it isn’t remotely happy, isn’t encouraged by universal reward and absence of criticism. It certainly isn’t treated with or caused by the kind of positive feedback Luke’s post advocates.
Do you remember the online dating profile optimization thread? LessWrong went in Vladimir_M’s words “healing crystal equivalent”. That thread was a happy death spiral.
Also if you recall the critics in the relationship threads are getting tired and frustrated and just aren’t showing up any more, someone even wrote out a full comment to that effect! Evaporative cooling dude. Sure we haven’t had a relationship thread since Luke’s part I., but its only a matter of time before someone brings it up and the critics won’t be there any more.
I only bother because I’m a Charlie Sheen.
Very well I’ll be explicit, I simply wanted to avoid a flame war. Most obvious example:
Relationship advice.
Now give me my M&Ms back.
Ah the good old though experiment, what would we do without it?
I can’t wait until someone casually dismisses PUA/game as unethical or manipulative.
Leave sleeping mind killers lie.
No.
We have enough happy death spirals here.
I think I’m going to be ill if this continues.
This illustrates an important point: doctors are lousy scientists, lousy researchers. They’re memorizers, not puzzle solvers.
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Oh, be nice now.
Actually being an accomplished researcher in the field of medicine, having done more science in the field than vast majority doctors in the world, he has good reason to say this.
This should be moved to Discussion I think.
An ok read, despite being very much more partisan and harsh than what is usually discussed or linked on LW.
Despite libertarian efforts to recruit the young and liberal-minded into the flock with promises of ending the wars, closing Guantanamo and calling off the cozy relationship with the Likudniks, The Reactionary Mind makes it clear that there’s no fundamental difference between any of these right-wing breeds, and thus common ground is neither possible nor desirable, particularly with the libertarians. “When the libertarian looks out upon society,” writes Robin, “he does not see isolated individuals; he sees private, often hierarchical, groups, where a father governs his family and an owner his employees.”
Those darn out group members! Der all the same I tells ya!
Yeah, maybe. Other possibilities include being ironic: if he objects to his inclusion on the list...
That’s not very nice. Apparently LW is big on being nice. See I’m learning.
I’m glad that you were able to explain why I and other chatters in #lesswrong sometimes called him by that shortcut: we were just manipulating the IRC crowd.
This is the first time I heard about this conversation occurring on IRC. Ok so I’m assuming Konk is a nick people use for him over there. But why use it on LW in this context? Come now, you where trying to communicate “oh look I’m socially near to him”.
I don’t criticize the posts because Eliezer uses cites all the time in the sequences, and where he isn’t, I often know the citations anyway from past discussions on SL4, standard transhumanist reading materials, the old SIAI Bookshelf, book & paper recommendations, etc.
You aren’t always the intended audience. Criticism from the perspective of those unfamiliar with Yudkwosky’s arguments are more valuable don’t you agree? The point of the sequences is to bring people up to speed.
Apologies for the harsh language gwern. I shouldn’t have used it. I will edit and retract to correct that.
That isn’t a job for CharlieSheen. Though I think if you look past the rude language you will find the arguments sound. But yes I was in the wrong here on tone.
I guess you are right ok I’ll edit away the “damn robot” part. My points however haven’t been addressed.
I don’t know what’s going on inside your head
I am on a drug. It’s called Charlie Sheen. It’s not available because if you try it you will die. Your face will melt off and your children will weep over your exploded body.
but this looks like motivated cognition from the
Regardless of why you are saying this, it doesn’t help change the community norm in the direct that you seem to want.
I’m not sure there is any hope for this community. But ok you seem reasonable, I’ll quit and let the conformist contrarian wolves tear K’s corpse.
Yeah I guess I can agree.
I originally misread him. He apparently dosen’t think K’s been on net “hurting” the community. I’ve edited my posts to reflect this. So apologies to Nesov.
But even if I’m wrong in this case, it seems obvious we have a split community on this.
I’m better the subconscious parts of the brains of the “Top Poster” Clique are running their little hamster wheels trying to find clever reasons why to associate with the high status gwern rather than low status absent underdog.
Gwern is wrong. Its that simple.
edit Corrected typo.
2nd edit Haters gonna hate. I’d love to hear some actual arguments though clique men. So predictable on LW someone bitches about karma and you insta up vote him and downvote the opponent. In a prisoners dilemma with the options of defect or cooperate, LWers always pick CONTRARIAN.
Clearly using “ze” or something like that will make a better impression on most people. Right.
But less than half of the actual audience the video is likely to get.
This is a weak effect. I’m not even sure it is measurable which means ignoring it carries small costs. Talking about this is thus just boring morality signalling that at least on gender topics eats up far to much time and brain CPU cycles on LessWrong. Your comment isn’t by far the worst offender at this kind of utilitarian fail I consistently see. It is not even that bad at it since it hasn’t launched drama. But I have a general policy of down voting all such comments to which I will adhere.
tl;dr Up voted because of you pointing out the religion straw man, down voted because of the useless “sexism” talk.