I am confused. Quirrell’s plan to get the Stone out of the Mirror while eluding Dumbledore’s traps is: go to the Mirror with Harry, then brainstorm ideas together for how to get the Stone from the Mirror, and then try the riskiest idea that Harry came up with?
His original plan was to set Harry up to retrieve the Stone for a selfless reason, then steal it from him. But Harry figured out the truth, and so that became impossible. I suspect that he had other plans, but that he abandoned them when he realized that Harry understood Dumbledore better than he did.
Having said that, yes, I think he should have spent a few more minutes looking for potential solutions.
I blame the DADA curse. That, or he did just go even crazier while stargazing.
After all, having just one plot in motion to defeat Voldemort would be irresponsible,
… Wait. Yes, that works. Voldemort bluffs Flamel—whoever that actually is—and the stone gets hidden in hogwarts specifically to get Voldemort, who Dumbledore knows wanted the DADA job to walk into the curse.
The curse isn’t Voldemorts—its an effect of Baba Yaga’s goblet invocation. The alternative is that he pulled of two major ritual workings, which a: He himself says isn’t a thing that happens and b: He would most certainly have bragged about.
This may be true. But we don’t know that. If you are saying something that we dot know is true, it should be hedged. If something is true for sure then sound confident, or even better cite a source.
I built up an entire theory about the curse after 108 - I may sound more confident about it than is wise, but didn’t want to recap the whole thing again as that would just be tiresome. Apologies. Suffice it to say that I currently believe Voldemorts own stolen cup is fucking with him.
It’s that or he is for some odd reason plotting his own downfall, because stepping in front of that mirror while under a confundus charm was just.. extremely ill advised.
Did you ever come up with a response to the point that the Goblet was in Hogwarts for a few centuries after Baba Yaga, before being warehoused at Beauxbatons? If the curse was in effect all that time, it would have been mentioned.
The phrasing is that nothing can be taken from anyone protected by the contract. Not that gifts or trade are forbidden, Which means that if BY drops a note to the effect that she is subcontracting her responsibilities as battle magic teacher into the goblet that particular teacher is granted forbearance.
So as long as the goblet was in a place she could get at, no curse.
I am confused. Quirrell’s plan to get the Stone out of the Mirror while eluding Dumbledore’s traps is: go to the Mirror with Harry, then brainstorm ideas together for how to get the Stone from the Mirror, and then try the riskiest idea that Harry came up with?
His original plan was to set Harry up to retrieve the Stone for a selfless reason, then steal it from him. But Harry figured out the truth, and so that became impossible. I suspect that he had other plans, but that he abandoned them when he realized that Harry understood Dumbledore better than he did.
Having said that, yes, I think he should have spent a few more minutes looking for potential solutions.
Possibly he doesn’t have any good ideas for that part but is desperate due to feeling the opportunity is passing.
I blame the DADA curse. That, or he did just go even crazier while stargazing.
After all, having just one plot in motion to defeat Voldemort would be irresponsible,
… Wait. Yes, that works. Voldemort bluffs Flamel—whoever that actually is—and the stone gets hidden in hogwarts specifically to get Voldemort, who Dumbledore knows wanted the DADA job to walk into the curse.
The DADA curse was put by Voldemort itself. Does it affect him ? And can’t he lift it ? I wouldn’t blame much upon that curse concerning Quirrelmort.
The curse isn’t Voldemorts—its an effect of Baba Yaga’s goblet invocation. The alternative is that he pulled of two major ritual workings, which a: He himself says isn’t a thing that happens and b: He would most certainly have bragged about.
This may be true. But we don’t know that. If you are saying something that we dot know is true, it should be hedged. If something is true for sure then sound confident, or even better cite a source.
I built up an entire theory about the curse after 108 - I may sound more confident about it than is wise, but didn’t want to recap the whole thing again as that would just be tiresome. Apologies. Suffice it to say that I currently believe Voldemorts own stolen cup is fucking with him.
It’s that or he is for some odd reason plotting his own downfall, because stepping in front of that mirror while under a confundus charm was just.. extremely ill advised.
Did you ever come up with a response to the point that the Goblet was in Hogwarts for a few centuries after Baba Yaga, before being warehoused at Beauxbatons? If the curse was in effect all that time, it would have been mentioned.
The phrasing is that nothing can be taken from anyone protected by the contract. Not that gifts or trade are forbidden, Which means that if BY drops a note to the effect that she is subcontracting her responsibilities as battle magic teacher into the goblet that particular teacher is granted forbearance. So as long as the goblet was in a place she could get at, no curse.