But norms, guidelines, heurisitics, advice, lie on an orthogonal axis to true/false: they are guides to action, not passive reflections. Their equivalent of the true/false axis are the Works/Does Not Work axis. So would adoption of the PoC work as way of understanding people, and calibrating your confidence levels?...that is the question.
OK, but that’s not an adequate basis for recommending a given norm/guideline/heuristic. One has to at least sketch an answer to the question, drawing on evidence and/or argument
Yes, but that’s beside the original point. What you call a realistic guideline doesnt work as a guideline at all, and therefore isnt a a charitable interpretation of the PoC.
Justifying that PoC as something that works at what it is supposed to do, is a question that can be answered, but it is a separate question.
namely, noticing and throwing away any initial suspicion I have that a comment’s wrong, and then forcing myself to pretend the comment must be correct in some obscure way.
Thats exactly what I mean.
What specifically would I have done if I’d treated the seemingly patently wrong comment as cogent instead?
Cogent doesn’t mean right. You actually succeeded in treating it as wrong for sane reasons, ie failure to check data.
But norms, guidelines, heurisitics, advice, lie on an orthogonal axis to true/false: they are guides to action, not passive reflections. [...]
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Yes, but that’s beside the original point.
You brought it up!
What you call a realistic guideline doesnt work as a guideline at all, and therefore isnt a a charitable interpretation of the PoC.
I continue tothink that the version I called realistic is no less workable than your version.
Justifying that PoC as something that works at what it is supposed to do, is a question that can be answered, but it is a separate question.
Again, it’s a question you introduced. (And labelled “the question”.) But I’m content to put it aside.
noticing and throwing away any initial suspicion I have that a comment’s wrong, and then forcing myself to pretend the comment must be correct in some obscure way.
Thats exactly what I mean.
But surely it isn’t. Just 8 minutes earlier you wrote that a case where I did the opposite was an “example of PoC”.
Yes, but that’s beside the original point. What you call a realistic guideline doesnt work as a guideline at all, and therefore isnt a a charitable interpretation of the PoC.
Justifying that PoC as something that works at what it is supposed to do, is a question that can be answered, but it is a separate question.
Thats exactly what I mean.
Cogent doesn’t mean right. You actually succeeded in treating it as wrong for sane reasons, ie failure to check data.
You brought it up!
I continue to think that the version I called realistic is no less workable than your version.
Again, it’s a question you introduced. (And labelled “the question”.) But I’m content to put it aside.
But surely it isn’t. Just 8 minutes earlier you wrote that a case where I did the opposite was an “example of PoC”.
See my response to CCC.