I don’t think jails main function to be deterrant. Jail can give room for reflection and it can be used to provide a more structured environment. Various interventions are more easily carried out in jail context. Jail prevents further commitment of most types of crime. At least for their stay in jail they will have to carry out a way less crimeful life.
Actually, deterrence is a big part of why we incarcerate criminals. I don’t really think that jails (in many parts of the world anyway) are very conducive to positive interventions, rehabilitation, etc.
Jail prevents further commitment of most types of crime.
Obviously capital punishment is more effective than jail in preventing the criminal from committing additional crimes.
At least for their stay in jail they will have to carry out a way less crimeful life.
I’m not sure that is true. Many jails are full of criminal activity, e.g. drug dealing, other contraband smuggling, violent assault, etc. And, criminal gangs operate in many jails in the US and many other parts of the world as well.
Capital punihsment doesn’t help the convict to live a crimelss life where a jail does.
I do take not that jail is described as deterrence and that a proper “no argument to the stick” line would want to abolish that. However if we are going to discourage people with negative consequences jail has less downsides to it than capital punishment.
I do come from a part of the world where rehabilatory stances are taken more seriously and the prison conditions are kept way more orderly (which like takes money). I can speak only for my half on why I approve having jails around and how I would like them to be run. US type prisons are very in line with the will of the voter but I disagree with the popular stance there to handle prisoners.
In a documentary apparently one inmates motive for the crime was to be incarcinated in order to buy their drugs at prison prices instead of street prices. While I understand this from the convicts point of view I don’t think that any system that allows this to happen is a good one. While you can’t 100% remove them because the smugglers have pretty good incentives to try, if it is too much accepted as a inevitability the countermeasures can be too lax.
How do you feel about jail sentences for criminals? Isn’t forcibly imprisoning someone basically “argument via stick”?
I don’t think jails main function to be deterrant. Jail can give room for reflection and it can be used to provide a more structured environment. Various interventions are more easily carried out in jail context. Jail prevents further commitment of most types of crime. At least for their stay in jail they will have to carry out a way less crimeful life.
Actually, deterrence is a big part of why we incarcerate criminals. I don’t really think that jails (in many parts of the world anyway) are very conducive to positive interventions, rehabilitation, etc.
Obviously capital punishment is more effective than jail in preventing the criminal from committing additional crimes.
I’m not sure that is true. Many jails are full of criminal activity, e.g. drug dealing, other contraband smuggling, violent assault, etc. And, criminal gangs operate in many jails in the US and many other parts of the world as well.
Capital punihsment doesn’t help the convict to live a crimelss life where a jail does.
I do take not that jail is described as deterrence and that a proper “no argument to the stick” line would want to abolish that. However if we are going to discourage people with negative consequences jail has less downsides to it than capital punishment.
I do come from a part of the world where rehabilatory stances are taken more seriously and the prison conditions are kept way more orderly (which like takes money). I can speak only for my half on why I approve having jails around and how I would like them to be run. US type prisons are very in line with the will of the voter but I disagree with the popular stance there to handle prisoners.
In a documentary apparently one inmates motive for the crime was to be incarcinated in order to buy their drugs at prison prices instead of street prices. While I understand this from the convicts point of view I don’t think that any system that allows this to happen is a good one. While you can’t 100% remove them because the smugglers have pretty good incentives to try, if it is too much accepted as a inevitability the countermeasures can be too lax.