I understand that when a clear interpretaion is not super handy it is tempting to give up on it. However human mother will babble with their babies, they don’t deem their children incapable of speech if they don’t speak like they do.
Siris tea leaf reading is not partial to dogs.
There is also the mirror effect that because the buttons give them “perfect” vocalization there can be temptation that they mean more stuff with them.
Making a dog pronounce English at a human level seems impossible but that is why the barks and whines. There are regional human accent with humans with native languages have certain dialects in english. These can already hinder comprehension so atleast similar if not greater patience should be extended to “dog english”.
If it could be clearly established to which word each dog sound corresponds then the vocals would be as good as buttons. It is proper for a trainer to treat the distinguishable sounds as proper dialogue lines. Part of the buttons is that it makes the human confident that word was meant (human has less chance to think it is a meaningless wiff and has more pressure to treat it as intentional communication)
I did mean that homeschooling would be an adequate substitute but there is a diffrence of keeping your children sensory depirvation chamber in a cellar and giving a competent homeschooling. The expectations on what dogs can do and I tried to get afforded to do is very limited. We don’t diagnose people with dyslexia if they have never been introduced to the alphabeth (I guess it has forms that manifest that don’t depend on symbols, point is shortcomings need a baseline to stand out). The pets are around language ubt are they actually participating in the language games, is management of things that matter to them done throught language? People do not babble with their dogs and in that they are on uneven ground with babies.
Sure the dog understand some words, better but hr can sometimes hold coversation to the point that he can participate in an argument. Even if doing vocals “ruins” it somehow the burden of what is enough of a demonstration of “getting it” with buttons. That is in a “problem of other minds” kind of level problem of why we don’t attribute humans to be “merely” tea leaf reading when we are communicating (and some would probably argue that we actually communicate much less than we think we do).
This is partly why the difference between Sherpa and K’eyush is interesting. Sherpa actually really on board with the content but to an untrained ear it seems very similar.
I understand that when a clear interpretaion is not super handy it is tempting to give up on it. However human mother will babble with their babies, they don’t deem their children incapable of speech if they don’t speak like they do.
Siris tea leaf reading is not partial to dogs.
There is also the mirror effect that because the buttons give them “perfect” vocalization there can be temptation that they mean more stuff with them.
Making a dog pronounce English at a human level seems impossible but that is why the barks and whines. There are regional human accent with humans with native languages have certain dialects in english. These can already hinder comprehension so atleast similar if not greater patience should be extended to “dog english”.
If it could be clearly established to which word each dog sound corresponds then the vocals would be as good as buttons. It is proper for a trainer to treat the distinguishable sounds as proper dialogue lines. Part of the buttons is that it makes the human confident that word was meant (human has less chance to think it is a meaningless wiff and has more pressure to treat it as intentional communication)
I did mean that homeschooling would be an adequate substitute but there is a diffrence of keeping your children sensory depirvation chamber in a cellar and giving a competent homeschooling. The expectations on what dogs can do and I tried to get afforded to do is very limited. We don’t diagnose people with dyslexia if they have never been introduced to the alphabeth (I guess it has forms that manifest that don’t depend on symbols, point is shortcomings need a baseline to stand out). The pets are around language ubt are they actually participating in the language games, is management of things that matter to them done throught language? People do not babble with their dogs and in that they are on uneven ground with babies.
Sure the dog understand some words, better but hr can sometimes hold coversation to the point that he can participate in an argument. Even if doing vocals “ruins” it somehow the burden of what is enough of a demonstration of “getting it” with buttons. That is in a “problem of other minds” kind of level problem of why we don’t attribute humans to be “merely” tea leaf reading when we are communicating (and some would probably argue that we actually communicate much less than we think we do).
This is partly why the difference between Sherpa and K’eyush is interesting. Sherpa actually really on board with the content but to an untrained ear it seems very similar.