I think “why doesn’t it get more attention” is the wrong question to ask. “What’s the better solution” and “what should I do to improve things” are likely to get more traction here.
I think “why doesn’t it get more attention” is the wrong question to ask. “What’s the better solution” and “what should I do to improve things” are likely to get more traction here.
This looks to me like it comes from a mindkilled point of view, that discount the value of knowledge.
“How should we solve X?” is a different question from “Why is the current political coalition the way it is?”
The first question is about solving a political cause. The second question is about understanding.
In the model that deluks917 proposes animal rights, prisoners and psychatric patients should have similar amount of backing for their cause. In our world that’s not the case. There’s something wrong in the model. The rational way to deal with unexplained derivations from models is to try to understand them to update the model.
The fact that people like shminux and deluks917 mistakenly put it in the same reference class as problems that the modern left cares about is interesting and suggest a broken model.
This looks to me like it comes from a mindkilled point of view
Quite possibly. I did and do make the inference that the post was targeted at the question as a political issue (with the intent to change it, not as an academic exploration). That form of question is so commonly used that way, that it requires disclaimers and multiple examples for me to even consider that it might be otherwise.
I also skipped a step, in failing to state that I do not actually know whether it’s a problem, nor if so, whether it’s significant enough to put much attention on. Compared to general human poverty and wasted potential, the short lifespans of humans, and the significant existential risks that face intelligent life in this corner of the universe, I think it may be correct to spend less effort on specific marginal cases.
I think “why doesn’t it get more attention” is the wrong question to ask. “What’s the better solution” and “what should I do to improve things” are likely to get more traction here.
This looks to me like it comes from a mindkilled point of view, that discount the value of knowledge.
“How should we solve X?” is a different question from “Why is the current political coalition the way it is?”
The first question is about solving a political cause. The second question is about understanding.
In the model that deluks917 proposes animal rights, prisoners and psychatric patients should have similar amount of backing for their cause. In our world that’s not the case. There’s something wrong in the model. The rational way to deal with unexplained derivations from models is to try to understand them to update the model.
The fact that people like shminux and deluks917 mistakenly put it in the same reference class as problems that the modern left cares about is interesting and suggest a broken model.
Quite possibly. I did and do make the inference that the post was targeted at the question as a political issue (with the intent to change it, not as an academic exploration). That form of question is so commonly used that way, that it requires disclaimers and multiple examples for me to even consider that it might be otherwise.
I also skipped a step, in failing to state that I do not actually know whether it’s a problem, nor if so, whether it’s significant enough to put much attention on. Compared to general human poverty and wasted potential, the short lifespans of humans, and the significant existential risks that face intelligent life in this corner of the universe, I think it may be correct to spend less effort on specific marginal cases.