finally you bring some concrete specific points. Why didn’t you or the others talk to me about it when I requested it? It seems a bit unfair that you bring it up now in public when I asked you in private before.
> „Effective Altruists are the new hippies“
It reflects what I see in some people, but not all of them and yes I see it as a problem in part of EA and Rationality. It is also mentioned in the third post I linked in the introduction(there the talk is about bohemians and not hippies, but I think it goes into the same direction). Yet I still go to EA meetings and think that I can learn from it.
> „Christianity is a death cult“, etc.
As a former Christian I think that is actually true by definition unless you believe that Jesus is alive, I got this from Hitchens btw. Marko you should be fair and mention that you go to a Christian church, so you are not unbiased in that respect :)
> 9/11 truth and Thai prostitutes that he brings up frequently and that derail and degrade the quality of discussion.
I’m indeed a 9/11 skeptic but I don’t remember that this topic did ever take over the discussion. Neither was I the one that started the discussion on LW(I think it was Eliezer).
Thai prostitutes, we once had a long discussion on one EA meeting about prostitution in general and that did go overboard, for fairness sake you should also mention that I was one of the people that suggested changing the topic.
Again I said it several times, if those topics are the problem I would have no problem not talking about them anymore. I told that Daniel and Michal several times.
Roland, it isn’t about the object level or any particular one specific thing. I gave some examples for illustration, but none of them are cruxes for me.
Let me be more specific. The problem is not that you hold and voice any particular opinions, the problem is that your opinion forming and voicing process is such that it is unproductive for us to engage with you.
I have known you for 2 years and have not seen you improve in this regard.
Marko,
finally you bring some concrete specific points. Why didn’t you or the others talk to me about it when I requested it? It seems a bit unfair that you bring it up now in public when I asked you in private before.
> „Effective Altruists are the new hippies“
It reflects what I see in some people, but not all of them and yes I see it as a problem in part of EA and Rationality. It is also mentioned in the third post I linked in the introduction(there the talk is about bohemians and not hippies, but I think it goes into the same direction). Yet I still go to EA meetings and think that I can learn from it.
> „Christianity is a death cult“, etc.
As a former Christian I think that is actually true by definition unless you believe that Jesus is alive, I got this from Hitchens btw. Marko you should be fair and mention that you go to a Christian church, so you are not unbiased in that respect :)
> 9/11 truth and Thai prostitutes that he brings up frequently and that derail and degrade the quality of discussion.
I’m indeed a 9/11 skeptic but I don’t remember that this topic did ever take over the discussion. Neither was I the one that started the discussion on LW(I think it was Eliezer).
Thai prostitutes, we once had a long discussion on one EA meeting about prostitution in general and that did go overboard, for fairness sake you should also mention that I was one of the people that suggested changing the topic.
Again I said it several times, if those topics are the problem I would have no problem not talking about them anymore. I told that Daniel and Michal several times.
Roland, it isn’t about the object level or any particular one specific thing. I gave some examples for illustration, but none of them are cruxes for me.
Let me be more specific. The problem is not that you hold and voice any particular opinions, the problem is that your opinion forming and voicing process is such that it is unproductive for us to engage with you.
I have known you for 2 years and have not seen you improve in this regard.