I do not think the standard usage is well defined, and avoiding these terms altogether is not possible, seeing as they are in the definition of the problem we are discussing.
Interpretations of the words and arguments for the claim are the whole content of the ancestor post. Maybe you should start there instead of quoting snippets out of context and linking unrelated fallacies? Perhaps, by specifically stating the better and more standard interpretations?
Huh? Can you explain? Normally, one states that a mechanical device is “predicatable”: given its current state and some effort, one can discover its future state. Machines don’t have the ability to choose. Normally, “choice” is something that only a system possessing free will can have. Is that not the case? Is there some other “standard usage”? Sorry, I’m a newbie here, I honestly don’t know more about this subject, other than what i can deduce by my own wits.
Machines don’t have preferences, by which I mean they have no conscious self-awareness of a preferred state of the world—they can nonetheless execute “if, then, else” instructions.
That such instructions do not follow their preferences (as they lack such) can perhaps be considered sufficient reason to say that machines don’t have the ability to choose—that they’re deterministic doesn’t… “Determining something” and “Choosing something” are synonyms, not opposites after all.
Either your claim is false or you are using a definition of at least one of those two words that means something different to the standard usage.
I do not think the standard usage is well defined, and avoiding these terms altogether is not possible, seeing as they are in the definition of the problem we are discussing.
Interpretations of the words and arguments for the claim are the whole content of the ancestor post. Maybe you should start there instead of quoting snippets out of context and linking unrelated fallacies? Perhaps, by specifically stating the better and more standard interpretations?
Huh? Can you explain? Normally, one states that a mechanical device is “predicatable”: given its current state and some effort, one can discover its future state. Machines don’t have the ability to choose. Normally, “choice” is something that only a system possessing free will can have. Is that not the case? Is there some other “standard usage”? Sorry, I’m a newbie here, I honestly don’t know more about this subject, other than what i can deduce by my own wits.
Machines don’t have preferences, by which I mean they have no conscious self-awareness of a preferred state of the world—they can nonetheless execute “if, then, else” instructions.
That such instructions do not follow their preferences (as they lack such) can perhaps be considered sufficient reason to say that machines don’t have the ability to choose—that they’re deterministic doesn’t… “Determining something” and “Choosing something” are synonyms, not opposites after all.