Well… let me put it this way. If the outcome of the conversation / exercise is substantial enough to need a summary, and that summary of the outcome itself runs into multiple paragraphs, then, yeah, we have some different expectations.
Or… how about like this:
Imagine a table (aside: I’d really love it if the commenting software here supported tables…), with two rows and two columns. The rows: Raemon and djm. The columns: Before and After. In other words: “Should HPMOR be on the front page? Before the Double Crux exercise, Raemon said yes and gjm said no. After the Double Crux exercise, Raemon said __ and gjm said __.” What goes in the blanks?. (In other words, I am looking for a mere 2 bits of information here!)
(Of course, there are some possible outcomes that don’t quite fit into that very narrow framework, such as “we decided the question was malformed” or “one or both of us is now agnostic on the matter” or something along those lines. Still, I should not expect even this class of outcomes to be so complex that they can’t at least be indicated with a single sentence!)
A large chunk of the point of Double Crux, IMO, is that questions substantial enough to have this sort of disagreement are almost always malformed.
The point of Double Crux is to reduce one question “should HPMOR be on the front page?” to another question that we both agree would answer the first question (“Did more than X% of people who read HPMOR radically have their life changed for the better?”)
Well… let me put it this way. If the outcome of the conversation / exercise is substantial enough to need a summary, and that summary of the outcome itself runs into multiple paragraphs, then, yeah, we have some different expectations.
Or… how about like this:
Imagine a table (aside: I’d really love it if the commenting software here supported tables…), with two rows and two columns. The rows: Raemon and djm. The columns: Before and After. In other words: “Should HPMOR be on the front page? Before the Double Crux exercise, Raemon said yes and gjm said no. After the Double Crux exercise, Raemon said __ and gjm said __.” What goes in the blanks?. (In other words, I am looking for a mere 2 bits of information here!)
(Of course, there are some possible outcomes that don’t quite fit into that very narrow framework, such as “we decided the question was malformed” or “one or both of us is now agnostic on the matter” or something along those lines. Still, I should not expect even this class of outcomes to be so complex that they can’t at least be indicated with a single sentence!)
> such as “we decided the question was malformed
A large chunk of the point of Double Crux, IMO, is that questions substantial enough to have this sort of disagreement are almost always malformed.
The point of Double Crux is to reduce one question “should HPMOR be on the front page?” to another question that we both agree would answer the first question (“Did more than X% of people who read HPMOR radically have their life changed for the better?”)