Thanks for this—it’s useful to try to decompose the idea in order to understand it better, either to improve oneself, or to recognize the aspects in others. I’m not yet sure how much I agree, but I really appreciate the attempt.
Do you consider “good decision-making” and “good judgement” to be identical? I think there’s a value alignment component to good judgement that’s not as strongly implied by good decision-making. Someone with good judgement is likely to make choices that lead to outcomes which I will like (or a future, smarter me will like), someone who makes good decisions is likely to make choices that they will like, even if I don’t.
I think there’s also a capability component, distinct from “understanding/modeling the world”, about self-alignment or self-control—the ability to speak or act in accordance with good judgement, even when that conflicts with short-term drives.
I think there’s also a capability component, distinct from “understanding/modeling the world”, about self-alignment or self-control—the ability to speak or act in accordance with good judgement, even when that conflicts with short-term drives.
In my ontology I guess this is about the heuristics which are actually invoked to decide what to do given a clash between abstract understanding of what would be good and short-term drives (i.e. it’s part of meta-level judgement). But I agree that there’s something helpful about having terminology to point to that part in particular. Maybe we could say that self-alignment and self-control are strategies for acting according to one’s better judgement?
Do you consider “good decision-making” and “good judgement” to be identical? I think there’s a value alignment component to good judgement that’s not as strongly implied by good decision-making.
I agree that there’s a useful distinction to be made here. I don’t think of it as fitting into “judgement” vs “decision-making” (and would regard those as pretty much the same), but rather about how “good” is interpreted/assessed. I was mostly using good to mean something like “globally good” (i.e. with something like your value alignment component), but there’s a version of “prudentially good judgement/decision-making” which would exclude this.
I’m open to suggestions for terminology to capture this!
Thanks for this—it’s useful to try to decompose the idea in order to understand it better, either to improve oneself, or to recognize the aspects in others. I’m not yet sure how much I agree, but I really appreciate the attempt.
Do you consider “good decision-making” and “good judgement” to be identical? I think there’s a value alignment component to good judgement that’s not as strongly implied by good decision-making. Someone with good judgement is likely to make choices that lead to outcomes which I will like (or a future, smarter me will like), someone who makes good decisions is likely to make choices that they will like, even if I don’t.
I think there’s also a capability component, distinct from “understanding/modeling the world”, about self-alignment or self-control—the ability to speak or act in accordance with good judgement, even when that conflicts with short-term drives.
In my ontology I guess this is about the heuristics which are actually invoked to decide what to do given a clash between abstract understanding of what would be good and short-term drives (i.e. it’s part of meta-level judgement). But I agree that there’s something helpful about having terminology to point to that part in particular. Maybe we could say that self-alignment and self-control are strategies for acting according to one’s better judgement?
I agree that there’s a useful distinction to be made here. I don’t think of it as fitting into “judgement” vs “decision-making” (and would regard those as pretty much the same), but rather about how “good” is interpreted/assessed. I was mostly using good to mean something like “globally good” (i.e. with something like your value alignment component), but there’s a version of “prudentially good judgement/decision-making” which would exclude this.
I’m open to suggestions for terminology to capture this!