Most people accept that being smart helps you perform in school, but that does not mean that they accept that IQ is an appropriate representation of intelligence, or that they support using it to sort people for tasks where intelligence is a significant qualification. Asking people whether they think schools should be able to pick the most intelligent candidates, or sort by IQ, will not get you the same answers.
As mentioned upthread, most people don’t mind sorting on SAT but oppose sorting on IQ. Hypothesis: Any measure that is perceived (correctly or not) to measure native talent accurately will be opposed, because people are afraid that their kids may not be talented “enough”, and if the measure is accurate, they won’t be able to gimmick it. People want a measure they can manipulate to their child’s advantage.
I don’t have any evidence for or against, but it seems plausible to me. I would expect people to want a system that benefits their own kids over others; I would expect that to be something you Can’t Say (because it amounts to defection); and a system that purports to be neutral but is actually gimmickable by the parent (through educational choices) would seem to suit.
[ETA: “Intelligence” as a quality is so nebulous that people won’t mind that, either; if they claim their kid is intelligent, but all measures of it are rejected as invalid for one reason or another, then nothing can prove that their kid is in fact stupid. The state of being intelligent becomes a matter of opinion, not a fact. Opinions are “safe”, in that they can’t be proven wrong; but accepting a measure as valid means accepting that it may measure you and yours as wanting, with no “just your opinion!” or “just socially disadvantaged!” to save you]
Hypothesis: Any measure that is perceived (correctly or not) to measure native talent accurately will be opposed, because people are afraid that their kids may not be talented “enough”, and if the measure is accurate, they won’t be able to gimmick it.
Hypothesis: People prefer an obvious measure, not a speculative one. If you want to measure how good people are at doing something, just let them do it and measure the results. Instead of using a predictor which may or may not work.
SAT is something the child did. IQ is what other people measured about them. SAT is about the potential and one’s ability to use it. IQ is only about the potential. Many factors lead to success in SAT. IQ is only one of them.
I don’t have any evidence for or against, but it seems plausible to me. I would expect people to want a system that benefits their own kids over others; I would expect that to be something you Can’t Say (because it amounts to defection); and a system that purports to be neutral but is actually gimmickable by the parent (through educational choices) would seem to suit.
It’s not something people discuss publicly all that often, but it’s not so taboo that it’s hard to find people who cop to doing it. A lot of parents see fighting for every possible advantage they can get their kids as being part of the fundamentals of being a good parent.
Are said “non ideological people” a majority?
Most people accept that being smart helps you perform in school, but that does not mean that they accept that IQ is an appropriate representation of intelligence, or that they support using it to sort people for tasks where intelligence is a significant qualification. Asking people whether they think schools should be able to pick the most intelligent candidates, or sort by IQ, will not get you the same answers.
As mentioned upthread, most people don’t mind sorting on SAT but oppose sorting on IQ. Hypothesis: Any measure that is perceived (correctly or not) to measure native talent accurately will be opposed, because people are afraid that their kids may not be talented “enough”, and if the measure is accurate, they won’t be able to gimmick it. People want a measure they can manipulate to their child’s advantage.
I don’t have any evidence for or against, but it seems plausible to me. I would expect people to want a system that benefits their own kids over others; I would expect that to be something you Can’t Say (because it amounts to defection); and a system that purports to be neutral but is actually gimmickable by the parent (through educational choices) would seem to suit.
[ETA: “Intelligence” as a quality is so nebulous that people won’t mind that, either; if they claim their kid is intelligent, but all measures of it are rejected as invalid for one reason or another, then nothing can prove that their kid is in fact stupid. The state of being intelligent becomes a matter of opinion, not a fact. Opinions are “safe”, in that they can’t be proven wrong; but accepting a measure as valid means accepting that it may measure you and yours as wanting, with no “just your opinion!” or “just socially disadvantaged!” to save you]
Hypothesis: People prefer an obvious measure, not a speculative one. If you want to measure how good people are at doing something, just let them do it and measure the results. Instead of using a predictor which may or may not work.
SAT is something the child did. IQ is what other people measured about them. SAT is about the potential and one’s ability to use it. IQ is only about the potential. Many factors lead to success in SAT. IQ is only one of them.
It’s not something people discuss publicly all that often, but it’s not so taboo that it’s hard to find people who cop to doing it. A lot of parents see fighting for every possible advantage they can get their kids as being part of the fundamentals of being a good parent.