This list is a lot better in terms of comprehensiveness since most things are probably in one of the three buckets, but one of my main points was that there are a lot of approaches with a chance of working that have little overlap, and lumping them together glosses over that. There are probably several ideas that aren’t on my list and also in your #1.
Or differently put, the opinion that #1 is hopeless only makes sense if you have an argument that applies to all things in #1, but I question whether you can justifiably have such an argument. (I know you don’t have it, I’m just saying that the category you’ve created may be doing some unjustified work here.)
Edit: and also (this is something I almost included in the post but then didn’t), I’m also skeptical about lumping #3 together since e.g. agent foundations and debate don’t seem to have a lot of overlap, but they’re both ideas that aim to solve the entire problem. And EY seems more specialized in agent foundations specifically than all of alignment.
This list is a lot better in terms of comprehensiveness since most things are probably in one of the three buckets, but one of my main points was that there are a lot of approaches with a chance of working that have little overlap, and lumping them together glosses over that. There are probably several ideas that aren’t on my list and also in your #1.
Or differently put, the opinion that #1 is hopeless only makes sense if you have an argument that applies to all things in #1, but I question whether you can justifiably have such an argument. (I know you don’t have it, I’m just saying that the category you’ve created may be doing some unjustified work here.)
Edit: and also (this is something I almost included in the post but then didn’t), I’m also skeptical about lumping #3 together since e.g. agent foundations and debate don’t seem to have a lot of overlap, but they’re both ideas that aim to solve the entire problem. And EY seems more specialized in agent foundations specifically than all of alignment.
(Good correction on the inner alignment thing.)