Wow. Too bad I missed this when it was first posted. It’s what I wish I’d said when justifying my reply to Wei_Dai’s attempted belief/values dichotomy here and here.
I don’t fully agree with Ricky here, but I think he makes a half-good point.
The ungood part of his comment—and mine—is that you can only do your best. If certain people’s minds are too messed up to actually extract values from, then they are just not salvageable. My mind definitely has values that are belief-independent, though perhaps not all of what I think of as “my values” have this nice property, so ultimately they might be garbage.
Indeed. Most of the FAI’s job could consist of saying, “Okay, there’s soooooo much I have to disentangle and correct before I can even begin to propose solutions. Sit down and let’s talk.”
Wow. Too bad I missed this when it was first posted. It’s what I wish I’d said when justifying my reply to Wei_Dai’s attempted belief/values dichotomy here and here.
I don’t fully agree with Ricky here, but I think he makes a half-good point.
The ungood part of his comment—and mine—is that you can only do your best. If certain people’s minds are too messed up to actually extract values from, then they are just not salvageable. My mind definitely has values that are belief-independent, though perhaps not all of what I think of as “my values” have this nice property, so ultimately they might be garbage.
Indeed. Most of the FAI’s job could consist of saying, “Okay, there’s soooooo much I have to disentangle and correct before I can even begin to propose solutions. Sit down and let’s talk.”