It goes to show that the LW community isn’t capable of discussing things in these (or any other outgroup) spaces like calm and rational adults as discussed in the OP. They’ll use that as an applause light, but they won’t actually constrain their behavior.
Further, the best indicator of upvotes for my comments is the degree of buzzwords they use. I guess that white nationalist didn’t say “modeling” enough.
I agree with this part. LessWrong really really really likes its buzzwords. The most charitable interpretation that I can give is that there’s short inferential differences involved, but I wouldn’t be very surprised if it had to do with that “insight addiction” theory someone mentioned earlier in one of the discussion threads. In-group and out-group signalling is probably also related to this, because LessWrongers are human.
It’s probably this overuse of buzzwords which leads to the relatively widespread perception that LessWrongers are a groupthinking cult that worships Eliezer, so I think LessWrong should maybe start to move away from the buzzwords a bit.
I also agree that LessWrongers respond to criticism badly, and use tone arguments as an excuse too often, but I don’t really have anything to add to the discussion on that score; I just wanted to note my agreement.
I agree with this part. LessWrong really really really likes its buzzwords. The most charitable interpretation that I can give is that there’s short inferential differences involved, but I wouldn’t be very surprised if it had to do with that “insight addiction” theory someone mentioned earlier in one of the discussion threads. In-group and out-group signalling is probably also related to this, because LessWrongers are human.
It’s probably this overuse of buzzwords which leads to the relatively widespread perception that LessWrongers are a groupthinking cult that worships Eliezer, so I think LessWrong should maybe start to move away from the buzzwords a bit.
I also agree that LessWrongers respond to criticism badly, and use tone arguments as an excuse too often, but I don’t really have anything to add to the discussion on that score; I just wanted to note my agreement.