I gotta say, much too late to the punch here and nine years wiser, the ‘not sexist’ parts of these posts really do not age well, though many might not have caught the trend yet. The problem isn’t that women, or whomever, want to be considered the same entirely physically and biologically. It’s always been that, as some stark assumption, no attempt is ever made to proffer equal time or attention. There is a great amount of time and research that could be made and would reveal a great deal of knowledge in our history and the anthropological understanding of our species.
It’s sexist because when studies are done regarding anthropological traits of women, it’s always about mating, childbearing, or westernized fantasies of sedentary housekeeping. These things were absolutely important. Not how they want it to be, and rarely are they equivalent to what we expect or want in order to push certain biased viewpoints- viewpoints time and time again lambasted and then hidden and rewritten to sound ‘statistically sound’, while making an absolute MOCKERY of statistics. Anyone learn about how Native Americans were primarily matriarchies and Chiefs were local leaders at best? Or heard the story of European traders being horrified of women in Africa being the primary agricultural workers while men tended to not work and do other domestic jobs, as well as fight?
The onna-musha? The Egyptian royalty’s Game of Thrones problem and the insane power of the queen mother?Ethiopia’s dowry? We had bride price (that is, most of Europe, in particular Britain until only recently), while Ethiopia had a real dowry system already.
These things get swept aside to point out barbarism or tradition. We fail to celebrate unique parts of our cultures and species in favor of a narrative, and unwittingly accept it on the basis of limited information. I do not blame anyone for coming to the old conclusions I did. I’m just sorry you were driven to the wrong destination.
What these sorts of fields are useful for is checking your own bias and seeing what you can or cannot be convinced of. Go a little deeper, fact check the fact check, don’t be satisfied with one answer but find perspectives. It’s quite interesting when you really start to examine the numbers; they don’t make any sense, are fabricated, out of context, or simply obfuscated.
Eugenics is not about folding proteins. It’s about improving the gene pool artificially, and, well, no one will contest that ending things like Downs would be an incredible advancement. But we MUST be wary of the individuals who will include race, hair color, eye color, features, height, whatever, into that. Eventually, you add in a control gene, a literal possible one and not a vaccine conspiracy, and we’re at a real life Brave New World, where you are your role, and you enjoy it. These people still exist, and they still fund far right groups.
I gotta say, much too late to the punch here and nine years wiser, the ‘not sexist’ parts of these posts really do not age well, though many might not have caught the trend yet. The problem isn’t that women, or whomever, want to be considered the same entirely physically and biologically. It’s always been that, as some stark assumption, no attempt is ever made to proffer equal time or attention. There is a great amount of time and research that could be made and would reveal a great deal of knowledge in our history and the anthropological understanding of our species.
It’s sexist because when studies are done regarding anthropological traits of women, it’s always about mating, childbearing, or westernized fantasies of sedentary housekeeping. These things were absolutely important. Not how they want it to be, and rarely are they equivalent to what we expect or want in order to push certain biased viewpoints- viewpoints time and time again lambasted and then hidden and rewritten to sound ‘statistically sound’, while making an absolute MOCKERY of statistics. Anyone learn about how Native Americans were primarily matriarchies and Chiefs were local leaders at best? Or heard the story of European traders being horrified of women in Africa being the primary agricultural workers while men tended to not work and do other domestic jobs, as well as fight?
The onna-musha? The Egyptian royalty’s Game of Thrones problem and the insane power of the queen mother?Ethiopia’s dowry? We had bride price (that is, most of Europe, in particular Britain until only recently), while Ethiopia had a real dowry system already.
These things get swept aside to point out barbarism or tradition. We fail to celebrate unique parts of our cultures and species in favor of a narrative, and unwittingly accept it on the basis of limited information. I do not blame anyone for coming to the old conclusions I did. I’m just sorry you were driven to the wrong destination.
What these sorts of fields are useful for is checking your own bias and seeing what you can or cannot be convinced of. Go a little deeper, fact check the fact check, don’t be satisfied with one answer but find perspectives. It’s quite interesting when you really start to examine the numbers; they don’t make any sense, are fabricated, out of context, or simply obfuscated.
Eugenics is not about folding proteins. It’s about improving the gene pool artificially, and, well, no one will contest that ending things like Downs would be an incredible advancement. But we MUST be wary of the individuals who will include race, hair color, eye color, features, height, whatever, into that. Eventually, you add in a control gene, a literal possible one and not a vaccine conspiracy, and we’re at a real life Brave New World, where you are your role, and you enjoy it. These people still exist, and they still fund far right groups.