Half-joking: Find me a mathematical statement that purports to not describe the real world and I’ll show you a mathematical statement that describes patterns in constructions of symbols made of the real world. Territory comes first; math can show us perfect patterns in the territory, but by the same token, it can only ever be map. The map, being part of the territory, can then make insightful statements about itself, through many layers of patterns of patterns of patterns of patterns, but you’ve never seen a mathematical statement that wasn’t in the territory.
Of course math is in the territory, everything is. Embedded agency and all. But it does not mean that the particular part of the territory that is a specific part of math is also a lossy compression of a larger part of the territory.
Half-joking: Find me a mathematical statement that purports to not describe the real world and I’ll show you a mathematical statement that describes patterns in constructions of symbols made of the real world. Territory comes first; math can show us perfect patterns in the territory, but by the same token, it can only ever be map. The map, being part of the territory, can then make insightful statements about itself, through many layers of patterns of patterns of patterns of patterns, but you’ve never seen a mathematical statement that wasn’t in the territory.
Of course math is in the territory, everything is. Embedded agency and all. But it does not mean that the particular part of the territory that is a specific part of math is also a lossy compression of a larger part of the territory.
That’s syntax, not semantics.
HUH. iiiiinteresting...