As far as I can tell, some of the most recent conversations to have the most uncvil remarks are conversations involving whether AI risk is a serious problem and if so what should be done about it. The thread on Luke’s discussion with Pei Wang seems to be the most recent example. This also appears to be more common in threads that discuss mainstream attitudes about AI risk and where they disagrees with common LW opinion. Given that, I’m becoming worried that AI risk estimates may be becoming a tribalized belief category. Should we worry that AI risk is becoming or has become a mindkiller?
The politicalization of existential risk is not something to be happy with. Existential risk has higher stakes (the highest stakes arguably), we need to be more careful about failures of rationality, not happy that it has infected this as well.
Not quite dichotomy. I’m thinking in terms of an evolution of a painful topic in the noosphere. Some kind of ‘five stages of grief’ - denial, anger, bargaining, etc :)
As far as I can tell, some of the most recent conversations to have the most uncvil remarks are conversations involving whether AI risk is a serious problem and if so what should be done about it. The thread on Luke’s discussion with Pei Wang seems to be the most recent example. This also appears to be more common in threads that discuss mainstream attitudes about AI risk and where they disagrees with common LW opinion. Given that, I’m becoming worried that AI risk estimates may be becoming a tribalized belief category. Should we worry that AI risk is becoming or has become a mindkiller?
It sure seems like something is going on. Another example is Dmytry being pretty civil before he started debating LWers on AI risk.
I want to upvote this again.
Isn’t it something to celebrate? If the idea of AI risks is to be regarded seriously, it can’t not become political.
The politicalization of existential risk is not something to be happy with. Existential risk has higher stakes (the highest stakes arguably), we need to be more careful about failures of rationality, not happy that it has infected this as well.
‘Politicalization’ seems to be an unavoidable stage. And it’s much better than total unconcern.
False dichotomy?
Not quite dichotomy. I’m thinking in terms of an evolution of a painful topic in the noosphere. Some kind of ‘five stages of grief’ - denial, anger, bargaining, etc :)