There’s a lot of history. Something that covers both ancient and modern history is going to be something like Sapiens (my summary) or the Big History Project. But Sapiens is about a particular viewpoint of history / the general arc drawn through the datapoints, not the datapoints themselves.
Consider, for example, a request for a book on all of science. The only real thing that could be recommended is a book on the scientific method, or a general history of the most important scientific ideas, but nothing that could be considered “comprehensive.” To just grab four history books off my shelf, I have a 300 page one on the history of materials and material science (and how that impacted economics and politics), a 420 page book detailing the evidence for evolution over the last ~500 years in Britain, a 900 page book that tersely describes important cultural works and events in Western civilization over the last 500 years, and another 900 page book that describes four distinct cultural groups in Britain that are the ancestors of the major cultural forces in the modern US.
A Farewell to Alms by Gregory Clark (Note that many contest the claims on comparisons to China, claiming that the pressures detailed were even stronger there.)
Albion’s Seed by David Hackett Fisher (there is a more recent book on a very similar subject that I have not yet read here, but it has fewer pages and covers more groups, so I imagine it has less details but may be worth reading with / instead of Albion’s Seed.)
Here’s, for example, a textbook I was looking into: World History by Duiker & Spielvogel. The table of contents looks pretty much like what I was seeking, though there’s less focus on geopolitics and more on the civilisational “big picture” than I would have liked. (Edit: and perhaps if it were thrice the page count it would have been closer to the level of detail I was trying to get.) I was interested in getting a comparison between, for instance, this book and others of the same type.
What I’m trying to remedy is a very poor knowledge of the most basic, boring kind of historical data: who ruled when, what were the major battles and their dates and locations, what political entities and subdivisions existed and when were they founded and ended/conquered, what major reforms were made, what people produced and traded etc. I too have and can find books on very specific historical matters, and take pleasure in reading them, but they would fit better in an understanding of the hard facts and data relevant to those historical circumstances.
The difference between recall and recognition is perhaps important for this. Even if you can’t recall things unbidden, recognizing that something fits with your “sense of history” or not is useful. For example, if someone says “remember that time a Muslim army invaded central France?” you might think “oh yeah, what was that battle’s name? Wasn’t Charlemagne’s father involved?” instead of “that sounds like an AU timeline.”
(The ‘dates and battles’ view is better than ignorance, but I still think it’s a very oversold perspective relative to scientific / economic / engineering history.)
Even if you can’t recall things unbidden, recognizing that something fits with your “sense of history” or not is useful.
Yes, but it’s the standard school approach of “throw a lot of everything at the wall, something will stick”. It doesn’t look efficient or effective. I can see some sense in it during the middle/high school years because you’re basically training kids to deal the overwhelming amounts of information (e.g. by forcing them to figure out what’s important and what’s not) -- however adult self-education should be able to do a lot better.
I know a lot less about it than you might expect. I’m able to recall various tidbits about people’s life and culture in who-knows-what historical era, but the “big picture” is very low-res. I don’t want to keep having surprises like, “oh, these peoples existed”, “hey, Afrikaans sounds Germanic, what’s up with that”, “I’ve been listening to a song about this guy for months, but I don’t know wtf he did” etc.
There’s a lot of history. Something that covers both ancient and modern history is going to be something like Sapiens (my summary) or the Big History Project. But Sapiens is about a particular viewpoint of history / the general arc drawn through the datapoints, not the datapoints themselves.
Consider, for example, a request for a book on all of science. The only real thing that could be recommended is a book on the scientific method, or a general history of the most important scientific ideas, but nothing that could be considered “comprehensive.” To just grab four history books off my shelf, I have a 300 page one on the history of materials and material science (and how that impacted economics and politics), a 420 page book detailing the evidence for evolution over the last ~500 years in Britain, a 900 page book that tersely describes important cultural works and events in Western civilization over the last 500 years, and another 900 page book that describes four distinct cultural groups in Britain that are the ancestors of the major cultural forces in the modern US.
Would you be willing to share the titles and authors of those books?
The Substance of Civilization by Stephen L. Sass
A Farewell to Alms by Gregory Clark (Note that many contest the claims on comparisons to China, claiming that the pressures detailed were even stronger there.)
From Dawn to Decadence by Jacques Barzun
Albion’s Seed by David Hackett Fisher (there is a more recent book on a very similar subject that I have not yet read here, but it has fewer pages and covers more groups, so I imagine it has less details but may be worth reading with / instead of Albion’s Seed.)
Here’s, for example, a textbook I was looking into: World History by Duiker & Spielvogel. The table of contents looks pretty much like what I was seeking, though there’s less focus on geopolitics and more on the civilisational “big picture” than I would have liked. (Edit: and perhaps if it were thrice the page count it would have been closer to the level of detail I was trying to get.) I was interested in getting a comparison between, for instance, this book and others of the same type.
What I’m trying to remedy is a very poor knowledge of the most basic, boring kind of historical data: who ruled when, what were the major battles and their dates and locations, what political entities and subdivisions existed and when were they founded and ended/conquered, what major reforms were made, what people produced and traded etc. I too have and can find books on very specific historical matters, and take pleasure in reading them, but they would fit better in an understanding of the hard facts and data relevant to those historical circumstances.
Why do you want to know this? You’ll forget the great majority of this data in half a year.
The difference between recall and recognition is perhaps important for this. Even if you can’t recall things unbidden, recognizing that something fits with your “sense of history” or not is useful. For example, if someone says “remember that time a Muslim army invaded central France?” you might think “oh yeah, what was that battle’s name? Wasn’t Charlemagne’s father involved?” instead of “that sounds like an AU timeline.”
(The ‘dates and battles’ view is better than ignorance, but I still think it’s a very oversold perspective relative to scientific / economic / engineering history.)
Yes, but it’s the standard school approach of “throw a lot of everything at the wall, something will stick”. It doesn’t look efficient or effective. I can see some sense in it during the middle/high school years because you’re basically training kids to deal the overwhelming amounts of information (e.g. by forcing them to figure out what’s important and what’s not) -- however adult self-education should be able to do a lot better.
I know a lot less about it than you might expect. I’m able to recall various tidbits about people’s life and culture in who-knows-what historical era, but the “big picture” is very low-res. I don’t want to keep having surprises like, “oh, these peoples existed”, “hey, Afrikaans sounds Germanic, what’s up with that”, “I’ve been listening to a song about this guy for months, but I don’t know wtf he did” etc.
So study the big picture. Who ruled when and in which particular year did a battle take place are not very useful for that.