I should mention that Metafire and I have spent lots of time discussing these concepts, and I am familiar with the ideas he is presenting in this comment. The metaphysics that Metafire is trying to describe here is pretty much identical to what ata described in the post on The mathematical universe: the map that is the territory.
Oh, and please excuse the confusing grammar, English isn’t Metafire’s native language. Metafire lives in Germany. Metafire, please check today’s post in my waveblog for some suggestions on how to make the grammar of that comment less confusing.
I know I’ve gotten negative feedback when I’ve tried to do polls before, but… did anyone actually understand what Metafire was saying in this comment? Even I didn’t understand that last paragraph. It will need lots more explanation.
Oh, and Metafire and I disagree on the implications of this metaphysics. I believe that this metaphysics doesn’t invalidate total hedonic utilitarianism, but Metafire thinks it does, afaik.
Oh, and I also disagree with ata about some of the moral conclusions drawn from that post, though these disagreements are probably a matter of intuition and interpretation. Though I suspect that ata did something similar to that mathematical proof that tries to prove that 1=0, by misusing the concept of infinity.
I understood it, though if you’re in regular contact, maybe I only think I do.
Essentially, the belief that to be definable is to exist leads to moral nihilism, much as some thing Many-Worlds does ( no matter what you do, it’ll still be undone in other worlds. Each ‘good’ world as an equal and opposite ‘bad’ world).
The second half I understand the sentences of, but don’t think Metafire has provided enough details here. Certainly, I don’t see how some kind of weighted function over all ethical systems or volitions could help expand their scope.
I should mention that Metafire and I have spent lots of time discussing these concepts, and I am familiar with the ideas he is presenting in this comment. The metaphysics that Metafire is trying to describe here is pretty much identical to what ata described in the post on The mathematical universe: the map that is the territory.
Oh, and please excuse the confusing grammar, English isn’t Metafire’s native language. Metafire lives in Germany. Metafire, please check today’s post in my waveblog for some suggestions on how to make the grammar of that comment less confusing.
I know I’ve gotten negative feedback when I’ve tried to do polls before, but… did anyone actually understand what Metafire was saying in this comment? Even I didn’t understand that last paragraph. It will need lots more explanation.
Oh, and Metafire and I disagree on the implications of this metaphysics. I believe that this metaphysics doesn’t invalidate total hedonic utilitarianism, but Metafire thinks it does, afaik.
Oh, and I also disagree with ata about some of the moral conclusions drawn from that post, though these disagreements are probably a matter of intuition and interpretation. Though I suspect that ata did something similar to that mathematical proof that tries to prove that 1=0, by misusing the concept of infinity.
I understood it, though if you’re in regular contact, maybe I only think I do.
Essentially, the belief that to be definable is to exist leads to moral nihilism, much as some thing Many-Worlds does ( no matter what you do, it’ll still be undone in other worlds. Each ‘good’ world as an equal and opposite ‘bad’ world).
The second half I understand the sentences of, but don’t think Metafire has provided enough details here. Certainly, I don’t see how some kind of weighted function over all ethical systems or volitions could help expand their scope.