Right, yeah. And that (eventually) requires input of food into the person, but in principle they could be in a physically closed system that already has food & air in it… although that’s sort of beside the point. And isn’t that different from someone meditating for a few hours between meals. The energy is already in the system for now, and it can use that to untangle adaptive entropy.
Well, I mean that there’s something like a “more closed” to “more entangled with larger systems” spectrum for adaptive systems, and that untangling adaptive entropy seems to be possible along the whole spectrum in roughly the same way. Easier with high entanglement with low-entropy environments obviously! But if the entropy doesn’t crush the system into a complete shutdown spiral, it seems to often be possible for said system to rearrange itself and end up net less entropic.
I don’t know how that relates to things like thermodynamic energy, other than that all adaptive systems require it to function.
Right, yeah. And that (eventually) requires input of food into the person, but in principle they could be in a physically closed system that already has food & air in it… although that’s sort of beside the point. And isn’t that different from someone meditating for a few hours between meals. The energy is already in the system for now, and it can use that to untangle adaptive entropy.
Well, I mean that there’s something like a “more closed” to “more entangled with larger systems” spectrum for adaptive systems, and that untangling adaptive entropy seems to be possible along the whole spectrum in roughly the same way. Easier with high entanglement with low-entropy environments obviously! But if the entropy doesn’t crush the system into a complete shutdown spiral, it seems to often be possible for said system to rearrange itself and end up net less entropic.
I don’t know how that relates to things like thermodynamic energy, other than that all adaptive systems require it to function.