It seems like your opinion here is carrying over from a pretty different voting mechanism (in political elections, people only vote once, and the point of the vote is to choose a single thing). Here, people can change their vote willy nilly, and the point of the vote is to get a general sense of how good something is, and people can constantly adjust their vote in response to other people if they want.
The karma = appeal + visibility thing makes your preferred way of voting an absolute dealbreaker in my opinion – it automatically outputs a wrong answer to the question I think voting is trying to answer (“which posts or comments are best?”). Naively, it results in any slightly good post getting the same amount of karma as a great post. (Or, now that we’ve added Strong Votes, it only allows two clusters of karma scores for anything that most people agree are good)
I think it’s plausible we should change the whole voting system to accommodate the feedback concern you’re advocating here, but IMO you are advocating for basically switching to a new voting system, not “properly” implementing the current one.
I think it is a desirably property of a voting mechanism (whether here or in politics) that your vote should reflect your opinion on the issue, instead of… some strategic calculation that includes other people’s votes.
Here, people can change their vote willy nilly, and [...] constantly adjust their vote in response to other people if they want.
In theory yes, but is this how you really want to spend your time? Revisiting the old discussions and reconsidering your old votes in light of the new votes from other users...
IMO you are advocating for basically switching to a new voting system, not “properly” implementing the current one.
I have a strong opinion on “don’t downvote the content you like, and don’t upvote the content you dislike”. Other than this, I am quite happy with the voting mechanism as it exists now.
However, if spitevoting becomes a common practice, then I’d prefer to see the voting mechanism changed rather than abused. If other people (not me) feel a strong desire to express that some content is mediocre (in a way different than abstaining from voting), I would prefer that they have a first-class option to do that, instead of strategically abusing the existing options.
It seems like your opinion here is carrying over from a pretty different voting mechanism (in political elections, people only vote once, and the point of the vote is to choose a single thing). Here, people can change their vote willy nilly, and the point of the vote is to get a general sense of how good something is, and people can constantly adjust their vote in response to other people if they want.
The karma = appeal + visibility thing makes your preferred way of voting an absolute dealbreaker in my opinion – it automatically outputs a wrong answer to the question I think voting is trying to answer (“which posts or comments are best?”). Naively, it results in any slightly good post getting the same amount of karma as a great post. (Or, now that we’ve added Strong Votes, it only allows two clusters of karma scores for anything that most people agree are good)
I think it’s plausible we should change the whole voting system to accommodate the feedback concern you’re advocating here, but IMO you are advocating for basically switching to a new voting system, not “properly” implementing the current one.
I think it is a desirably property of a voting mechanism (whether here or in politics) that your vote should reflect your opinion on the issue, instead of… some strategic calculation that includes other people’s votes.
In theory yes, but is this how you really want to spend your time? Revisiting the old discussions and reconsidering your old votes in light of the new votes from other users...
I have a strong opinion on “don’t downvote the content you like, and don’t upvote the content you dislike”. Other than this, I am quite happy with the voting mechanism as it exists now.
However, if spitevoting becomes a common practice, then I’d prefer to see the voting mechanism changed rather than abused. If other people (not me) feel a strong desire to express that some content is mediocre (in a way different than abstaining from voting), I would prefer that they have a first-class option to do that, instead of strategically abusing the existing options.
Compare to the LW FAQ: