Ok then what in the world do you mean by “ cosnsciously” or “parts”? And why do you think we can’t make biological organisms? Is there something magical about then?
Google Craig Venter “synthetic life”
So emergence cannot be present in a mechanism if I “deliberately” make something but it can be it I make a mistake? So an emergent property is just anything accidental? Is software made from parts? So if I make a software application that has unexpected properties whether they are emergent or not all depends on how conscious I was of them when I set out?
I don’t mean anything exotic or hard to guess. Just soldering components onto a board, that kind of thing.
And why do you think we can’t make biological organisms?
We can’t right now.
So emergence cannot be present in a mechanism if I “deliberately” make something but it can be it I make a mistake?
“Emergence” can be present anywhere if you define it broadly enough. It’s not much of a win to prove that emergence is ubiquitous by trivialising the term.
Your characterization is far from universally accepted.
See Mechanisms in Science, Stanford Dictionary of Philosophy
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/science-mechanisms/#ProUndMai
What I say is valid given my definition of mechanism.
Ok then what in the world do you mean by “ cosnsciously” or “parts”? And why do you think we can’t make biological organisms? Is there something magical about then?
Google Craig Venter “synthetic life”
So emergence cannot be present in a mechanism if I “deliberately” make something but it can be it I make a mistake? So an emergent property is just anything accidental? Is software made from parts? So if I make a software application that has unexpected properties whether they are emergent or not all depends on how conscious I was of them when I set out?
I don’t mean anything exotic or hard to guess. Just soldering components onto a board, that kind of thing.
We can’t right now.
“Emergence” can be present anywhere if you define it broadly enough. It’s not much of a win to prove that emergence is ubiquitous by trivialising the term.