If we disagree with people about whether the long-term matters, then we disagree with them; if they want to call us names accordingly, so much the worse for them.
I mean, this works until someone in a position of influence bows the the pressure, and I don’t see why this can’t happen.
I think we can’t sacrifice the core to do those things.
The main disagreement seems to come down to how much we would give up when disallowing posts like this. My gears model still says ‘almost nothing’ since all it would take is to extend the norm “let’s not talk about politics” to “let’s not talk about politics and extremely sensitive social-justice adjacent issues”, and I feel like that would extend the set of interesting taboo topics by something like 10%.
(I’ve said the same here; if you have a response to this, it might make sense to all keep it in one place.)
I mean, this works until someone in a position of influence bows the the pressure, and I don’t see why this can’t happen.
The main disagreement seems to come down to how much we would give up when disallowing posts like this. My gears model still says ‘almost nothing’ since all it would take is to extend the norm “let’s not talk about politics” to “let’s not talk about politics and extremely sensitive social-justice adjacent issues”, and I feel like that would extend the set of interesting taboo topics by something like 10%.
(I’ve said the same here; if you have a response to this, it might make sense to all keep it in one place.)