I don’t think my suggestions are getting pushback; I think that my suggestions are being pattern-matched to “let’s all self-censor / cower before the woke mob” and everyone loves having that debate at the slightest pretense. For example, I maintain that my suggestion of “post at another site and linkpost from here, in certain special situations” is next-to-zero-cost, for significant benefit. Indeed, some people routinely post-elsewhere-and-linkpost, for no reason in particular. (The OP author already has a self-hosted blog, so there’s no inconvenience.) This seems to me like a prudent, win-win move, and if people aren’t jumping on it, I’m tempted to speculate that people are here for the fun signaling not the boring problem-solving / world-optimizing.
Imposing restrictions on our prolific writers
That’s not a useful framing. The mods have indicated that they won’t impose restrictions. Instead, I am trying to persuade people.
Although this is a very controversial topic I feel the need to offer a hopefully helpful observation to reduce the tension.
Namely that all these imputed motives, and most of the overall discussion on motives, can be true simultaneously in a single individual. Because people vary in their motives and capacities over time and can truly believe in contradictory positions while typing. (Dependent on anything, such as the phases of the moon, their last conversation with parents, the colour of their hat, etc…)
That is someone could be here for:
‘fun signalling’
‘boring problem solving’
‘cowering before woke mobs’
fighting against ‘cowering before woke mobs’
making others ‘cower before woke mobs’ but personally reject such
helping others fight against ‘cowering before woke mobs’ while accepting such personally
enforcing self censorship on others
revolting against any imposition of self censorship on them
enforcing self censorship on themselves but fighting against any imposition of the same on others
engaging in controversial debate at the ‘slightest pretense’
rejecting all controversial debate at the ’slightest pretense’
making others engage in controversial debate at the ‘slightest pretense’ but personally avoiding and vice versa
and so on…
simultaneously
So speculating on motives may not be the most efficient way to convince someone even if they genuinely agree with every rational criticism. If you really want to implement the ‘linked post’ solution, maybe there is an immensely convincing argument that the upsides of forcing such a behaviour is greater than the downsides?
I don’t think my suggestions are getting pushback; I think that my suggestions are being pattern-matched to “let’s all self-censor / cower before the woke mob” and everyone loves having that debate at the slightest pretense. For example, I maintain that my suggestion of “post at another site and linkpost from here, in certain special situations” is next-to-zero-cost, for significant benefit. Indeed, some people routinely post-elsewhere-and-linkpost, for no reason in particular. (The OP author already has a self-hosted blog, so there’s no inconvenience.) This seems to me like a prudent, win-win move, and if people aren’t jumping on it, I’m tempted to speculate that people are here for the fun signaling not the boring problem-solving / world-optimizing.
That’s not a useful framing. The mods have indicated that they won’t impose restrictions. Instead, I am trying to persuade people.
Although this is a very controversial topic I feel the need to offer a hopefully helpful observation to reduce the tension.
Namely that all these imputed motives, and most of the overall discussion on motives, can be true simultaneously in a single individual. Because people vary in their motives and capacities over time and can truly believe in contradictory positions while typing. (Dependent on anything, such as the phases of the moon, their last conversation with parents, the colour of their hat, etc…)
That is someone could be here for:
‘fun signalling’
‘boring problem solving’
‘cowering before woke mobs’
fighting against ‘cowering before woke mobs’
making others ‘cower before woke mobs’ but personally reject such
helping others fight against ‘cowering before woke mobs’ while accepting such personally
enforcing self censorship on others
revolting against any imposition of self censorship on them
enforcing self censorship on themselves but fighting against any imposition of the same on others
engaging in controversial debate at the ‘slightest pretense’
rejecting all controversial debate at the ’slightest pretense’
making others engage in controversial debate at the ‘slightest pretense’ but personally avoiding and vice versa
and so on…
simultaneously
So speculating on motives may not be the most efficient way to convince someone even if they genuinely agree with every rational criticism. If you really want to implement the ‘linked post’ solution, maybe there is an immensely convincing argument that the upsides of forcing such a behaviour is greater than the downsides?