Familiar with? Using the most obvious definition I’d say only my girlfriend.
Due to where I live I have neighbours from a wide variety of races and religions and mostly a different class from the people I grew up with, which is different again from the class I work in now. I haven’t lived for any substantial time in a different country. Does that answer your question?
So you know there are these people called “hipsters” who take pride in showing off their deviance and compete with one another to be deviant in interesting and original ways, right? Do you know many of them?
And everyone loves hipsters, right? Fellow hipsters of course support each other, but the wider world has nothing but respect and admiration for these people. Satisfying everyone’s values would certainly mean there were more hipsters around and that hipsters were encouraged to be even more hipster-ey.
Well, hipsters often like each other and they are a decently large faction. Also, I think hipsters might be disliked because they are overly intentional about being deviant (“I was in to them before they were cool” as a way to try to one-up someone, etc.)
I don’t think that’s true. To my eyes hipsters are this generation’s nouveau riche; people who have money and some kind of status, but don’t conform to upper-class tastes. The wealth and status precedes the hipsterism, it doesn’t derive from it.
Most of humanity hates deviants and I don’t think there’s anything incoherent about that value.
I don’t think you could get enough of humanity to agree on what should be considered “deviant” to make that value cohere.
What cross-section of humanity are you familiar with?
Familiar with? Using the most obvious definition I’d say only my girlfriend.
Due to where I live I have neighbours from a wide variety of races and religions and mostly a different class from the people I grew up with, which is different again from the class I work in now. I haven’t lived for any substantial time in a different country. Does that answer your question?
So you know there are these people called “hipsters” who take pride in showing off their deviance and compete with one another to be deviant in interesting and original ways, right? Do you know many of them?
And everyone loves hipsters, right? Fellow hipsters of course support each other, but the wider world has nothing but respect and admiration for these people. Satisfying everyone’s values would certainly mean there were more hipsters around and that hipsters were encouraged to be even more hipster-ey.
Well, hipsters often like each other and they are a decently large faction. Also, I think hipsters might be disliked because they are overly intentional about being deviant (“I was in to them before they were cool” as a way to try to one-up someone, etc.)
Yet the wider world still tends to assign them high status.
I don’t think that’s true. To my eyes hipsters are this generation’s nouveau riche; people who have money and some kind of status, but don’t conform to upper-class tastes. The wealth and status precedes the hipsterism, it doesn’t derive from it.
Well previous generations’ nouveau riche had better taste.
Not from the point of view of the previous generation X-)