Anonymous replies can help, but also check out these twothreads by lc and Logan Zoellner, where they have very different views and basically are replying to each other with “it seems like you’re doing the thing that’s the opposite of helping.” What are their cruxes? How can we keep that line of communication open, instead of people getting nastier and more disconnected? [It seems to me like so far the two are ‘making actual arguments’, but also I have a suspicion that it will get 10-20% worse with each reply, and that will mean we don’t actually have the space to get all the way to the ground, or seeing those threads as “how conversation will go” will cause other people to not start threads.]
In particular, seeing a comment that starts with “I suspect my advice is the exact opposite of they Less Wrong/EY consensus, so here goes:” downvoted to invisibility seems like it’s pretty terrible from the perspective of getting all arguments represented. Probably it’s worth turning on the feature that lets people vote ‘agree’ or ‘disagree’ separately from ‘upvote’ and ‘downvote’, so that we can separately track “how much voters agree on something” and “how much users should prioritize reading something.”
I invite people to reply anonymously here
I’ll add the link to the post
Anonymous replies can help, but also check out these two threads by lc and Logan Zoellner, where they have very different views and basically are replying to each other with “it seems like you’re doing the thing that’s the opposite of helping.” What are their cruxes? How can we keep that line of communication open, instead of people getting nastier and more disconnected? [It seems to me like so far the two are ‘making actual arguments’, but also I have a suspicion that it will get 10-20% worse with each reply, and that will mean we don’t actually have the space to get all the way to the ground, or seeing those threads as “how conversation will go” will cause other people to not start threads.]
In particular, seeing a comment that starts with “I suspect my advice is the exact opposite of they Less Wrong/EY consensus, so here goes:” downvoted to invisibility seems like it’s pretty terrible from the perspective of getting all arguments represented. Probably it’s worth turning on the feature that lets people vote ‘agree’ or ‘disagree’ separately from ‘upvote’ and ‘downvote’, so that we can separately track “how much voters agree on something” and “how much users should prioritize reading something.”
I removed my strong downvote, because you’re right, but I’d like to register my highly sincere disagreement here.
Two-axis voting is now activated, thanks to habryka.