So, all women are the same, you can pressure them to kiss you in <15min, and the goal is obedience? This looks like a scam preying upon the socially awkward. OK, maybe that’s just the web admin, let’s move on...
That’s an ad banner. I don’t think it makes much sense to treat these claims as coming from the seduction community, and most PUAs would not endorse them at all. What’s actually striking here is that PUA is effective enough (especially for socially awkward users who manage to acquire some focused social skills) that a banner ad can make such outlandish claims and not look wildly out of place on the site.
Interesting...many people are expressing agreement.
Note that the forum poster is citing personal experience along with PUA theory as a reason for his cynicism. And there is a lot of similarly-flavored cynicism which does not reference PUA memes at all, and has an even bitterer outlook on women and relationships. Look into the so-called “Nice Guy” phenomenon (which PUAs strongly object to, by the way), the “Men’s Rights” meme cluster and whatnot. PUA is a marked improvement on these meme clusters, while still being epistemically consistent with what we know about human social behavior.
The root problem here is that ‘cynicism’ is a problematic concept, since it conflates (1) epistemic beliefs and (2) markedly negative, scornful and complaining attitudes. It’s not clear at all that most aspiring PUAs share such bad attitudes, and PUA ‘inner game’ practices would tend to avoid and discourage them, if only because they’re markedly unattractive.
You mean that you inform her that you are interested, wait for her to think it over and inform her boyfriend about the breakup, and then start a relationship? I guess I could get behind that...
No, it’s a bit messier than that. Anyway, it’s a rare occurrence when one is actually able to “take over” from an existing relationship: the most common outcome is simply ejecting from the approach. Many posters make this abundantly clear in the linked forum thread. (In fact, I couldn’t even find anything clearly wrong with that thread, although I only looked at the first page.)
A better reason for being familiar with “BF destroyers” is that, as it turns out, women sometimes blurt out the “boyfriend” word as a kind of silly “test” or hoop to jump through, regardless of their actual relationship status.
That’s an ad banner. I don’t think it makes much sense to treat these claims as coming from the seduction community, and most PUAs would not endorse them at all. What’s actually striking here is that PUA is effective enough (especially for socially awkward users who manage to acquire some focused social skills) that a banner ad can make such outlandish claims and not look wildly out of place on the site.
Note that the forum poster is citing personal experience along with PUA theory as a reason for his cynicism. And there is a lot of similarly-flavored cynicism which does not reference PUA memes at all, and has an even bitterer outlook on women and relationships. Look into the so-called “Nice Guy” phenomenon (which PUAs strongly object to, by the way), the “Men’s Rights” meme cluster and whatnot. PUA is a marked improvement on these meme clusters, while still being epistemically consistent with what we know about human social behavior.
The root problem here is that ‘cynicism’ is a problematic concept, since it conflates (1) epistemic beliefs and (2) markedly negative, scornful and complaining attitudes. It’s not clear at all that most aspiring PUAs share such bad attitudes, and PUA ‘inner game’ practices would tend to avoid and discourage them, if only because they’re markedly unattractive.
No, it’s a bit messier than that. Anyway, it’s a rare occurrence when one is actually able to “take over” from an existing relationship: the most common outcome is simply ejecting from the approach. Many posters make this abundantly clear in the linked forum thread. (In fact, I couldn’t even find anything clearly wrong with that thread, although I only looked at the first page.)
A better reason for being familiar with “BF destroyers” is that, as it turns out, women sometimes blurt out the “boyfriend” word as a kind of silly “test” or hoop to jump through, regardless of their actual relationship status.