If you are truly staying in your house, and not going indoors anywhere with people from outside of your household (ordering grocery delivery, working from home, etc.) then I can see avoiding the vaccine until later, as you wouldn’t really be a risk to anyone else. But if you are still grocery shopping, or running any other errands inside or stores, then every time you do so you are putting everyone at some level risk.
On a related note, I find it strange that many of the groups hardest hit by COVID are also the groups least likely to get the vaccine. If anyone has any insight into why this is the case I would love to hear it.
But if you are still grocery shopping, or running any other errands inside or stores, then every time you do so you are putting everyone at some level risk.
A fairly cruxy upstream belief here for me is how often vaccines go to waste. My impression is that while there’s a lot of screwed-up-ness with the vaccine rollout, vaccines that do get produced basically get snatched up immediately by someone. So it’s not obvious that jaspax getting a vaccine actually reduces the amount of people contributing communal risk while grocery shopping.
(Some vaccines get thrown out and unused, but it seems like it’s fairly hard to find those)
We’re always putting others at some level of risk when we go out in public—in fact in some cases we might say we’re putting them at some risk if we don’t for say people with medical and emergency skills that might just happen to be in the right place at the right time. So I think the question here is what is the marginal risk we’re adding given the adjustments in behaviors nearly everyone has adopted while out in public.
It is also probably worth factoring in that for the grocery store it’s also highly unlikely that we are now introducing (at least directly) any additional level of risk to those there than they are comfortable exposing themselves to.
I do agree that there is an element of risks are clearly better understood from a system and not individual level analysis. But at this point, and for the example, I’m wonder just how much error and bias we introduce with the simple individual level argument compared to the complex system level argument.
If you are truly staying in your house, and not going indoors anywhere with people from outside of your household (ordering grocery delivery, working from home, etc.) then I can see avoiding the vaccine until later, as you wouldn’t really be a risk to anyone else. But if you are still grocery shopping, or running any other errands inside or stores, then every time you do so you are putting everyone at some level risk.
On a related note, I find it strange that many of the groups hardest hit by COVID are also the groups least likely to get the vaccine. If anyone has any insight into why this is the case I would love to hear it.
A fairly cruxy upstream belief here for me is how often vaccines go to waste. My impression is that while there’s a lot of screwed-up-ness with the vaccine rollout, vaccines that do get produced basically get snatched up immediately by someone. So it’s not obvious that jaspax getting a vaccine actually reduces the amount of people contributing communal risk while grocery shopping.
(Some vaccines get thrown out and unused, but it seems like it’s fairly hard to find those)
We’re always putting others at some level of risk when we go out in public—in fact in some cases we might say we’re putting them at some risk if we don’t for say people with medical and emergency skills that might just happen to be in the right place at the right time. So I think the question here is what is the marginal risk we’re adding given the adjustments in behaviors nearly everyone has adopted while out in public.
It is also probably worth factoring in that for the grocery store it’s also highly unlikely that we are now introducing (at least directly) any additional level of risk to those there than they are comfortable exposing themselves to.
I do agree that there is an element of risks are clearly better understood from a system and not individual level analysis. But at this point, and for the example, I’m wonder just how much error and bias we introduce with the simple individual level argument compared to the complex system level argument.