You don’t have to outright lie, just emphasize different symptoms. For instance, on a diagnostic questionnaire for ADHD, depression, or autism, I could score very high or very low and remain completely honest, just by interpreting the questions in slightly different ways.
Agree, and I expect many people do this unconsciously, primed by whatever their own thoughts are on the subject or what condition they have been primed to consider.
Another way I have ‘not lied’ to doctors is to go to a new doctor and say that I had run out of my existing supply and needed a new prescription. This is true, in as much as I originally got my drugs online, outside of the control of the establishment, passing through customs courtesy of lead lined envelopes. Having confirmed the usefulness of the substance it was then worth jumping through hoops to get a cheaper and hassle free source.
Another way I have ‘not lied’ to doctors is to go to a new doctor and say that I had run out of my existing supply and needed a new prescription.
I would imagine many doctors are on to this, though, especially for drugs like Adderall that people frequently sell on the black market. Does this often work?
I would imagine many doctors are on to this, though, especially for drugs like Adderall that people frequently sell on the black market. Does this often work?
It hasn’t failed me yet. But this relies on a specialized kind of social influence that I somehow seem to be very good at.
In any case getting what you want out of a doctor doesn’t seem to all that difficult (and, barring actual safety risks, nor should it!) The main reason I use an “I need a repeat” approach is that doctors tend to have their own ‘default’ preference they like out of the various options and they sometimes get all insecure and consider it a social challenge if you want a different drug. Say, vyvanse rather than Ritalin or escitalopram rather than fluoxetine (or, god forbid, venlafaxine!). It is just so much easier to frame the request as ‘resupply’ rather than ‘diagnosis’. Especially when the doctor clearly does not understand what the difference is between the drugs or what the modern research suggests. You need a way to get the right outcome without stepping on the poor old guy’s toes.
Another useful and harmless lie is “My sister has been using Tianeptine and it really worked for her. She’s the one who convinced me that I should consider treatement, etc” Throw in the body language of someone who is wary of the whole process and hesitant to concede that they need treatment. For some reason this works better than “Don’t give me SSRIs. SSRIs suck balls for depression with anxiety. Except stuff like venlafaxine that seriously mess you up with ‘discontinuation syndrome’ when you try to come off them. Tianeptine is way better, especially for the anxiety side of things and not only that, it has a much better side effect profile.”
I would imagine many doctors are on to this, though, especially for drugs like Adderall that people frequently sell on the black market. Does this often work?
It hasn’t failed me yet. But this relies on a specialized kind of social influence that I somehow seem to be very good at.
In any case getting what you want out of a doctor doesn’t seem to all that difficult (and, barring actual safety risks, nor should it!) The main reason I use an “I need a repeat” approach is that doctors tend to have their own ‘default’ preference they like out of the various options and they sometimes get all insecure and consider it a social challenge if you want a different drug. Say, vyvanse rather than Ritalin or escitalopram rather than fluoxetine (or, god forbid, venlafaxine!). It is just so much easier to frame the request as ‘resupply’ rather than ‘diagnosis’. Especially when the doctor clearly does not understand what the difference is or what the modern research suggests and you need a way to get the right outcome without stepping on the poor old guy’s toes.
Another useful and harmless lie is “My sister has been using Tianeptine and it really worked for her. She’s the one who convinced me that I should consider treatement, etc” Throw in the body language of someone who is wary of the whole process and hesitant to concede that they need treatment. For some reason this works better than “Don’t give me SSRIs. SSRIs suck balls for depression with anxiety. Except stuff like venlafaxine that seriously mess you up with ‘discontinuation syndrome’ when you try to come off them. Tianeptine is way better, especially for the anxiety side of things and not only that has a much better side effect profile.”
You don’t have to outright lie, just emphasize different symptoms. For instance, on a diagnostic questionnaire for ADHD, depression, or autism, I could score very high or very low and remain completely honest, just by interpreting the questions in slightly different ways.
Agree, and I expect many people do this unconsciously, primed by whatever their own thoughts are on the subject or what condition they have been primed to consider.
Another way I have ‘not lied’ to doctors is to go to a new doctor and say that I had run out of my existing supply and needed a new prescription. This is true, in as much as I originally got my drugs online, outside of the control of the establishment, passing through customs courtesy of lead lined envelopes. Having confirmed the usefulness of the substance it was then worth jumping through hoops to get a cheaper and hassle free source.
I would imagine many doctors are on to this, though, especially for drugs like Adderall that people frequently sell on the black market. Does this often work?
It hasn’t failed me yet. But this relies on a specialized kind of social influence that I somehow seem to be very good at.
In any case getting what you want out of a doctor doesn’t seem to all that difficult (and, barring actual safety risks, nor should it!) The main reason I use an “I need a repeat” approach is that doctors tend to have their own ‘default’ preference they like out of the various options and they sometimes get all insecure and consider it a social challenge if you want a different drug. Say, vyvanse rather than Ritalin or escitalopram rather than fluoxetine (or, god forbid, venlafaxine!). It is just so much easier to frame the request as ‘resupply’ rather than ‘diagnosis’. Especially when the doctor clearly does not understand what the difference is between the drugs or what the modern research suggests. You need a way to get the right outcome without stepping on the poor old guy’s toes.
Another useful and harmless lie is “My sister has been using Tianeptine and it really worked for her. She’s the one who convinced me that I should consider treatement, etc” Throw in the body language of someone who is wary of the whole process and hesitant to concede that they need treatment. For some reason this works better than “Don’t give me SSRIs. SSRIs suck balls for depression with anxiety. Except stuff like venlafaxine that seriously mess you up with ‘discontinuation syndrome’ when you try to come off them. Tianeptine is way better, especially for the anxiety side of things and not only that, it has a much better side effect profile.”
It hasn’t failed me yet. But this relies on a specialized kind of social influence that I somehow seem to be very good at.
In any case getting what you want out of a doctor doesn’t seem to all that difficult (and, barring actual safety risks, nor should it!) The main reason I use an “I need a repeat” approach is that doctors tend to have their own ‘default’ preference they like out of the various options and they sometimes get all insecure and consider it a social challenge if you want a different drug. Say, vyvanse rather than Ritalin or escitalopram rather than fluoxetine (or, god forbid, venlafaxine!). It is just so much easier to frame the request as ‘resupply’ rather than ‘diagnosis’. Especially when the doctor clearly does not understand what the difference is or what the modern research suggests and you need a way to get the right outcome without stepping on the poor old guy’s toes.
Another useful and harmless lie is “My sister has been using Tianeptine and it really worked for her. She’s the one who convinced me that I should consider treatement, etc” Throw in the body language of someone who is wary of the whole process and hesitant to concede that they need treatment. For some reason this works better than “Don’t give me SSRIs. SSRIs suck balls for depression with anxiety. Except stuff like venlafaxine that seriously mess you up with ‘discontinuation syndrome’ when you try to come off them. Tianeptine is way better, especially for the anxiety side of things and not only that has a much better side effect profile.”