Is the concept of honor so alien that you consider it “incredible” when men show it? You seem to be mocking the very idea with terms like “pinky promise” and “just trust me bro,” but trusting a man, even your enemy, to keep his word isn’t absurd.
If your model of international relations is the recent case of America responding to Russia denouncing the breaking of its promise not to expand NATO eastward with “Ha ha, you should have gotten it in writing!”, I think it’s clear that not all states behave so perfidiously.
The way the executive can make promises to other countries that are binding for future administrations is to do it as part of a treaty that gets ratified by the Senate.
The German unification happened under the Treaty on the Final Settlement with Respect to Germany which has Russia and the United States as parties. If Russia’s position at the time had been that they only agreed with German unification if a promise was made not to expand eastward, they could have asked for it to be included in that treaty.
If they would have done that, it would have been binding for future US administrations in a way that statements by a foreign ministers aren’t.
There are plenty cases like the sanctions against Belarus that are a much better example of the United States actually not uploading promises it made.
Also it seems that in extreme cases, formal agreements aren’t enough either. For example the USA’s pretty much unilateral cessation of many of its commitments under the Iran nuclear agreement the moment Trump took office. That one was supposed to go on for a-LOT more years.
There has been a misunderstanding—I did not mean to say any of this at all, let alone mock.
I would absolutely LOVE to hear about more examples of honor playing a significant role in international relations, especially conflict de-escalation! Perhaps I’m simply not familiar enough.
It would certainly make my day to learn that this is a more common occurrence than I ever thought it could be!
the recent case of America responding to Russia denouncing the breaking of its promise not to expand NATO eastward with “Ha ha, you should have gotten it in writing!”
I thought the response was more like: “this never happened, you just made that up”. You can’t break a promise you never made in the first place.
Is the concept of honor so alien that you consider it “incredible” when men show it?
It would be hard to make it work in democracy. A politician may promise something, and get replaced by another politician later. Should the latter honor the promises made by the former? (Is Biden required to build the wall, just because Trump promised it?) The entire point of democratic elections is that people can replace the politicians they no longer want.
Is the concept of honor so alien that you consider it “incredible” when men show it? You seem to be mocking the very idea with terms like “pinky promise” and “just trust me bro,” but trusting a man, even your enemy, to keep his word isn’t absurd.
If your model of international relations is the recent case of America responding to Russia denouncing the breaking of its promise not to expand NATO eastward with “Ha ha, you should have gotten it in writing!”, I think it’s clear that not all states behave so perfidiously.
The way the executive can make promises to other countries that are binding for future administrations is to do it as part of a treaty that gets ratified by the Senate.
The German unification happened under the Treaty on the Final Settlement with Respect to Germany which has Russia and the United States as parties. If Russia’s position at the time had been that they only agreed with German unification if a promise was made not to expand eastward, they could have asked for it to be included in that treaty.
If they would have done that, it would have been binding for future US administrations in a way that statements by a foreign ministers aren’t.
There are plenty cases like the sanctions against Belarus that are a much better example of the United States actually not uploading promises it made.
Also it seems that in extreme cases, formal agreements aren’t enough either. For example the USA’s pretty much unilateral cessation of many of its commitments under the Iran nuclear agreement the moment Trump took office. That one was supposed to go on for a-LOT more years.
Yes, I would see stepping out of that agreement with Iran also of a real breach of promises. Bush also broke formal promises made to North Korea.
I don’t think NATO expansion fits into that category.
There has been a misunderstanding—I did not mean to say any of this at all, let alone mock.
I would absolutely LOVE to hear about more examples of honor playing a significant role in international relations, especially conflict de-escalation! Perhaps I’m simply not familiar enough.
It would certainly make my day to learn that this is a more common occurrence than I ever thought it could be!
I thought the response was more like: “this never happened, you just made that up”. You can’t break a promise you never made in the first place.
It would be hard to make it work in democracy. A politician may promise something, and get replaced by another politician later. Should the latter honor the promises made by the former? (Is Biden required to build the wall, just because Trump promised it?) The entire point of democratic elections is that people can replace the politicians they no longer want.