Alice: I think the negative impact of my rudeness is probably smaller than the potential positive impact of getting you to act in line with the values you claim to have.
Bob: That doesn’t even seem true. If everyone is rude like you, then the Effective Altruism movement will get a bad reputation, and fewer people will be willing to join. What if I get so upset by your rudeness that I decide not to donate at all?
Alice: That kind of seems like a you problem, not a me problem.
Alice is being extremely rude! She is implementing a strategy that reduces both Alice’s and Bob’s value in the world in order to get Bob to change his position. This fulfills the rudimentary criteria for a Decision-Theoretic Threat, which you should not give in to, indicating that Bob should tell Alice to kick rocks, because it is only because Bob is malleable that she is inflicting rudeness on him.
Alice is being extremely rude! She is implementing a strategy that reduces both Alice’s and Bob’s value in the world in order to get Bob to change his position. This fulfills the rudimentary criteria for a Decision-Theoretic Threat, which you should not give in to, indicating that Bob should tell Alice to kick rocks, because it is only because Bob is malleable that she is inflicting rudeness on him.