Sure, I could have been a lot more thorough, if I had several hours to devote to this post. I didn’t need to. I pointed out the gap between the values the USPSTF used in their recommendation, and the values the FDA uses when regulating drugs. I think the gap is large enough that none of the factors you mention will come close to closing it. I suggest you take it on yourself to supply the figures if you think otherwise.
But you didn’t accuse me of just being sloppy, or failing to account for some factors. You wrote (my emphasis):
You state your conclusion without quantifying the factors involved or showing the calculation you used to reach the conclusion. … neither the report or your criticism provide any concrete quantification of those factors.
And that is a blatantly false accusation.
You further wrote:
you don’t give a neutral reader any reason to suppose that your hidden assumptions and calculations
As I already showed you my calculations twice, I can’t imagine what you are referring to. There are no hidden calculations. Missing calculations, maybe. Hidden, no.
You didn’t introduce any new factors not mentioned in the original report
Why would I do that? I think you’re missing the point. This is not an post arguing in favor of mammograms.
I think you’re missing the point. I’m not arguing against mammograms. From what I’ve seen here I’m still agnostic. The point of my original post was primarily to note the discrepancy between the apparent confidence you have in the wrongness of the report’s conclusion and my impression that you failed to make your case at all convincingly.
I’m not aware of having any particular prior opinion on this issue. I was aware that it had come up in the back and forth debate over health care but I had not consciously formed a strong opinion on it. My (probably biased) belief was that I was relatively impartial on this issue. To me there are numerous obvious logical flaws in your argument that rather undermine it’s use as an example on which to build a general theory of an action/inaction bias. The argument for such a bias appears to be premised on there being a watertight and unarguable case for mammograms, a case which it seems to me you failed to make. I don’t appear to be the only one who wasn’t convinced based on the other comments.
Sure, I could have been a lot more thorough, if I had several hours to devote to this post. I didn’t need to. I pointed out the gap between the values the USPSTF used in their recommendation, and the values the FDA uses when regulating drugs. I think the gap is large enough that none of the factors you mention will come close to closing it. I suggest you take it on yourself to supply the figures if you think otherwise.
But you didn’t accuse me of just being sloppy, or failing to account for some factors. You wrote (my emphasis):
And that is a blatantly false accusation.
You further wrote:
As I already showed you my calculations twice, I can’t imagine what you are referring to. There are no hidden calculations. Missing calculations, maybe. Hidden, no.
Why would I do that? I think you’re missing the point. This is not an post arguing in favor of mammograms.
I think you’re missing the point. I’m not arguing against mammograms. From what I’ve seen here I’m still agnostic. The point of my original post was primarily to note the discrepancy between the apparent confidence you have in the wrongness of the report’s conclusion and my impression that you failed to make your case at all convincingly.
I’m not aware of having any particular prior opinion on this issue. I was aware that it had come up in the back and forth debate over health care but I had not consciously formed a strong opinion on it. My (probably biased) belief was that I was relatively impartial on this issue. To me there are numerous obvious logical flaws in your argument that rather undermine it’s use as an example on which to build a general theory of an action/inaction bias. The argument for such a bias appears to be premised on there being a watertight and unarguable case for mammograms, a case which it seems to me you failed to make. I don’t appear to be the only one who wasn’t convinced based on the other comments.