“Drastically misaimed” really says nothing about whether or not a cuteness instinct would be a good adaptation, though. A counterexample: it’s a fact that our visual systems are acutely sensitive to rapidly-moving things. The evo-bio hypothesis is that this is predator detection. Does the fact that 99.999999% of the rapidly-moving things I notice aren’t predators negate this hypothesis as well?
I can’t think of very many cases in which people endanger themselves or their reproductive chances for the sake of cute animals. I’m sure it’s happened once or twice, but using this argument means demonstrating that the number of potential children lost due to finding bunnies cute is greater than the number of actual children attended to due to finding them cute.
As an aside, I think that Google in this case is adding to the confusion. The evo-bio cuteness theory is generally stated as being about a system that detects facial markers that strongly differentiate babies from adults—the key ones being eyes large relative to head size, pursed mouths, round cheeks, and round chins. Some baby animals, when viewed up close in Google, display some of these characteristics. In the wild, however, baby animals are almost never seen up close, and even when they are, they trigger the facial recognition systems only in dribs and drabs, like bad CG.
A counterexample: it’s a fact that our visual systems are acutely sensitive to rapidly-moving things. The evo-bio hypothesis is that this is predator detection. Does the fact that 99.999999% of the rapidly-moving things I notice aren’t predators negate this hypothesis as well?
Nope, because the rapidly-moving things that are predators matter way more. False negatives in predator-detection are more costly than false positives by orders of magnitude.
I can’t think of very many cases in which people endanger themselves or their reproductive chances for the sake of cute animals. I’m sure it’s happened once or twice, but using this argument means demonstrating that the number of potential children lost due to finding bunnies cute is greater than the number of actual children attended to due to finding them cute.
Excellent observation. Perhaps some people find baby animals of other species cuter due to evolutionary baggage from common ancestors, which has never needed to go away because it didn’t hurt our reproductive success.
n the wild, however, baby animals are almost never seen up close, and even when they are, they trigger the facial recognition systems only in dribs and drabs, like bad CG.
“I can’t think of very many cases in which people endanger themselves or their reproductive chances for the sake of cute animals.”
A) Drivers swerving to avoid cats and bunnies etc.
B) All the warnings about leaving bear cubs alone.
I can think of non-cuteness explanations that probably cover some part of each but it seems idle to reject any role for cuteness in those survivability risks.
I think that any situation that could not have occurred prior to the 20. century can be discarded out of hand when discussing the evolutionary roots of human behavior.
In English it’s not idiomatic to write ordinal numbers by adding a full stop after the cardinal, as it is in German. Normally one writes “20th” (with the “th” optionally superscripted).
Interesting, I wasn’t aware of the German convention. It seems slightly better; formulations like ‘1st’ (1 stands for ‘fir’?) and ‘2nd’ (2 stands for ‘seco’?) and ‘3rd’ (3 stands for ‘thi’?) never made much sense.
Interesting, I wasn’t aware of the German convention. It seems slightly better;
As for me, I dislike stuff that looks like the end of a sentence but actually isn’t or vice versa, so I feel very uneasy when I have to use something ending with a full stop (e.g. “etc.”) immediately followed by something starting with a capital letter (e.g. “I” or a proper name), and I try to avoid that by reworking punctuation to make it clear whether or not I’m starting a new sentence. (Even in iii’s comment where “century” starts with a lowercase letter, some part of my brain alieves that there are two separate sentences.)
“Drastically misaimed” really says nothing about whether or not a cuteness instinct would be a good adaptation, though. A counterexample: it’s a fact that our visual systems are acutely sensitive to rapidly-moving things. The evo-bio hypothesis is that this is predator detection. Does the fact that 99.999999% of the rapidly-moving things I notice aren’t predators negate this hypothesis as well?
I can’t think of very many cases in which people endanger themselves or their reproductive chances for the sake of cute animals. I’m sure it’s happened once or twice, but using this argument means demonstrating that the number of potential children lost due to finding bunnies cute is greater than the number of actual children attended to due to finding them cute.
As an aside, I think that Google in this case is adding to the confusion. The evo-bio cuteness theory is generally stated as being about a system that detects facial markers that strongly differentiate babies from adults—the key ones being eyes large relative to head size, pursed mouths, round cheeks, and round chins. Some baby animals, when viewed up close in Google, display some of these characteristics. In the wild, however, baby animals are almost never seen up close, and even when they are, they trigger the facial recognition systems only in dribs and drabs, like bad CG.
mattalyst said:
Nope, because the rapidly-moving things that are predators matter way more. False negatives in predator-detection are more costly than false positives by orders of magnitude.
Excellent observation. Perhaps some people find baby animals of other species cuter due to evolutionary baggage from common ancestors, which has never needed to go away because it didn’t hurt our reproductive success.
That’s my intuition, also.
“I can’t think of very many cases in which people endanger themselves or their reproductive chances for the sake of cute animals.” A) Drivers swerving to avoid cats and bunnies etc. B) All the warnings about leaving bear cubs alone. I can think of non-cuteness explanations that probably cover some part of each but it seems idle to reject any role for cuteness in those survivability risks.
I think that any situation that could not have occurred prior to the 20. century can be discarded out of hand when discussing the evolutionary roots of human behavior.
Interesting, I wasn’t aware of the German convention. It seems slightly better; formulations like ‘1st’ (1 stands for ‘fir’?) and ‘2nd’ (2 stands for ‘seco’?) and ‘3rd’ (3 stands for ‘thi’?) never made much sense.
As for me, I dislike stuff that looks like the end of a sentence but actually isn’t or vice versa, so I feel very uneasy when I have to use something ending with a full stop (e.g. “etc.”) immediately followed by something starting with a capital letter (e.g. “I” or a proper name), and I try to avoid that by reworking punctuation to make it clear whether or not I’m starting a new sentence. (Even in iii’s comment where “century” starts with a lowercase letter, some part of my brain alieves that there are two separate sentences.)