Presumably not per unit exposure, which is the relevant measure when you’re near a pig or shark. If he’s talking about abstract worry, then he might have a point.
But what’s the unit exposure? Does the exposure related to ocean swimming match the exposure of camping in Michigan wilderness?
You have a point, though. Of course, most people should worry about neither pig nor shark attacks.
Ok, but most people who are more worried about sharks than pigs are going on vacation to the beach and don’t work on a swine farm. And I don’t think those people are wrong to worry about sharks more than pigs. It is also quite likely that swine farmers do worry about pigs more than the rest of us.
Googled it too. You need to expand “pigs” to include “wild boar”.
Still this “six times as many death from pigs as from sharks” sounds suspiciously like an urban legend, the precise multiplier implies that there should be a well known source and not finding it is a hint. The numbers are small enough that the ratio should be all over the map.
Not entirely sure of the accuracy of these, but still. I think 31x as many killed by dogs as by sharks is a much more important figure than deaths from pigs.
I find 3 pig related occupational fatalities in the US from 1992-1997, and total US deaths at 4 from all marine animals, 2 of which were venomous from 1991 to 2001. So it looks like pigs have it, though it’s not like the difference is statistically significant.
I heard recently that when The Wizard of Oz came out, more people would have realized how dangerous it was when Dorothy fell in the pig pen. Today, we watch that movie and think it was just about her losing her balance, and maybe wonder why the farmer who saved her was so visibly upset about it. (I contacted my source and he said it was ‘just common knowledge’, and that pigs have since been domesticated from the wild boars they were, and that I should google, “pigs aggression”.)
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Presumably not per unit exposure, which is the relevant measure when you’re near a pig or shark. If he’s talking about abstract worry, then he might have a point.
I’ve decided to spend today abstractly worrying about sharks.
Fake Jedi sharks, no doubt.
Is today silly comment day?
But what’s the unit exposure? Does the exposure related to ocean swimming match the exposure of camping in Michigan wilderness? You have a point, though. Of course, most people should worry about neither pig nor shark attacks.
Ok, but most people who are more worried about sharks than pigs are going on vacation to the beach and don’t work on a swine farm. And I don’t think those people are wrong to worry about sharks more than pigs. It is also quite likely that swine farmers do worry about pigs more than the rest of us.
I googled for it but didn’t find any evidence for pigs killing people.
Googled it too. You need to expand “pigs” to include “wild boar”.
Still this “six times as many death from pigs as from sharks” sounds suspiciously like an urban legend, the precise multiplier implies that there should be a well known source and not finding it is a hint. The numbers are small enough that the ratio should be all over the map.
Average Number of Deaths per Year in the U.S
Bee/Wasp 53
Dogs 31
Spider 6.5
Rattlesnake 5.5
Mountain lion 1
Shark 1
Alligator 0.3
Bear 0.5
Scorpion 0.5
Centipede 0.5
Elephant 0.25
Wolf 0.1
Horse 20
Bull 3
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Not entirely sure of the accuracy of these, but still. I think 31x as many killed by dogs as by sharks is a much more important figure than deaths from pigs.
Looks like a slight mangling of the data from http://www.wemjournal.org/wmsonline/?request=get-document&issn=1080-6032&volume=016&issue=02&page=0067#i1080-6032-016-02-0067-t02
I find 3 pig related occupational fatalities in the US from 1992-1997, and total US deaths at 4 from all marine animals, 2 of which were venomous from 1991 to 2001. So it looks like pigs have it, though it’s not like the difference is statistically significant.
I heard recently that when The Wizard of Oz came out, more people would have realized how dangerous it was when Dorothy fell in the pig pen. Today, we watch that movie and think it was just about her losing her balance, and maybe wonder why the farmer who saved her was so visibly upset about it. (I contacted my source and he said it was ‘just common knowledge’, and that pigs have since been domesticated from the wild boars they were, and that I should google, “pigs aggression”.)
Since when is fear only about risk of death?
I suspect similar odds hold for non-fatal injuries.
Is there some fear associated with sharks other than the danger of injury or death?
The terrifying soundtrack that accompanies them when they approach.