(On an unrelated note, I hate it when people use fancy words for simple ideas.)
(Any examples from my comment? These are the simplest terms I know to accurately convey the relevant ideas, any help would be appreciated.)
The conscious me is fine with them, too. It’s the subconscious me who apparently wants to believe.
Then it appears to me that your doubts / questions might be coming from somewhere else, as a first thought. My subconscious has no particular problem either, and doesn’t appear to want to believe anything—it just runs its scripts, and I’ve seen none of them that are attempting to generate an explanatory belief-system to fill in missing nodes and empty referents of other emotional scripts.
Of course, this is all assuming I’m not doing some sort of third-order motivated cognition, i.e. unknowingly deceiving myself about what constitutes evidence of me deceiving myself, and also that your mind works remotely similar to my own in these respects, which is itself a very shaky proposition.
If your mind is automatically attempting to resolve the discrepancy of a missing target, which might equivocate to an alief in supernatural (or “fate”) and eventually cause one (but still remains, so far, substantially different IMO), then my own next step would be… hmm, I started to write this down, and then realized that it relies on a very critical “Recompute Scripted Mental Behaviors” black-box skill that I trained at a young age, one that would probably take more reductionist skill than I have to properly describe and probably presents too much inferential distance at the moment. In fact, this realization is an important one that I should have made long ago, and it now explains quite a bit about the mysterious inferential distance I find popping up in various psychology-related topics.
Anyway, on topic, my current impression is that your current mind configuration is not as “bad” as you seem to question/wonder/fear (insofar as you consider alief in supernatural entities to be “bad”), but rather that the complex and impenetrable interaction of various thought patterns is making your brain do strange things that might lead to some alief or anti-epistemology not explicitly contained here, but are most likely a result of the brain passing non-typesafe parameters and pointers and being able to randomly stumble from one thought pattern to another, even as it plugs in other patterns as parameters to the current one. (Note: Gah, not using programming terms and concepts while talking about cognition is hard when you haven’t studied any real/formal neurobiology and whatever other topic(s) studies these things.)
ETA:Morendil’s suggestion seems like a very good first step approach for someone who doesn’t have my mental configuration and abnormal skillsets.
(Any examples from my comment? These are the simplest terms I know to accurately convey the relevant ideas, any help would be appreciated.)
Cf “target does not exist” with
MentalNode-34223359 | Pointer error, no data at requested location
without actually finding a referent for the (ThankfulTo()) function
and to a reference to an esoteric language Lojban.
As you pointed out, your other geeky analogies, like “brain passing non-typesafe parameters and pointers”, while understandable to a programmer like myself, also appear needlessly complicated.
my current impression is that your current mind configuration is not as “bad” as you seem to question/wonder/fear
I simply noticed the disconnect between a belief and an alief in this particular case. Whether it is possible/worthwhile to get them aligned, is another question.
and to a reference to an esoteric language Lojban.
I agree with the other needlessly complicated analogies, but I forgot / should have explained that Lojban has a very logical structure where a word can have certain specific required or optional complements, e.g. IIRC the “expressing thanks” word would have a complement slot for (Target), a second slot for (what the thanks is for) and then one for (who is thanking the target) (defaults to speaker or provided by context), and in Lojban it’s perfectly normal to leave some slots empty for deliberate ambiguity/vagueness (but explicit ambiguity, unlike most natural languages).
So the reason I mentioned it is that this may be where I got this lack of any particular issue with empty/confused targets and could also be why my mind doesn’t seem to generate any aliefs from it as it seems yours might. There are other plausible explanations, but I doubt a test for that is feasible or relevant.
(Any examples from my comment? These are the simplest terms I know to accurately convey the relevant ideas, any help would be appreciated.)
Then it appears to me that your doubts / questions might be coming from somewhere else, as a first thought. My subconscious has no particular problem either, and doesn’t appear to want to believe anything—it just runs its scripts, and I’ve seen none of them that are attempting to generate an explanatory belief-system to fill in missing nodes and empty referents of other emotional scripts.
Of course, this is all assuming I’m not doing some sort of third-order motivated cognition, i.e. unknowingly deceiving myself about what constitutes evidence of me deceiving myself, and also that your mind works remotely similar to my own in these respects, which is itself a very shaky proposition.
If your mind is automatically attempting to resolve the discrepancy of a missing target, which might equivocate to an alief in supernatural (or “fate”) and eventually cause one (but still remains, so far, substantially different IMO), then my own next step would be… hmm, I started to write this down, and then realized that it relies on a very critical “Recompute Scripted Mental Behaviors” black-box skill that I trained at a young age, one that would probably take more reductionist skill than I have to properly describe and probably presents too much inferential distance at the moment. In fact, this realization is an important one that I should have made long ago, and it now explains quite a bit about the mysterious inferential distance I find popping up in various psychology-related topics.
Anyway, on topic, my current impression is that your current mind configuration is not as “bad” as you seem to question/wonder/fear (insofar as you consider alief in supernatural entities to be “bad”), but rather that the complex and impenetrable interaction of various thought patterns is making your brain do strange things that might lead to some alief or anti-epistemology not explicitly contained here, but are most likely a result of the brain passing non-typesafe parameters and pointers and being able to randomly stumble from one thought pattern to another, even as it plugs in other patterns as parameters to the current one. (Note: Gah, not using programming terms and concepts while talking about cognition is hard when you haven’t studied any real/formal neurobiology and whatever other topic(s) studies these things.)
ETA: Morendil’s suggestion seems like a very good first step approach for someone who doesn’t have my mental configuration and abnormal skillsets.
Cf “target does not exist” with
and to a reference to an esoteric language Lojban.
As you pointed out, your other geeky analogies, like “brain passing non-typesafe parameters and pointers”, while understandable to a programmer like myself, also appear needlessly complicated.
I simply noticed the disconnect between a belief and an alief in this particular case. Whether it is possible/worthwhile to get them aligned, is another question.
I agree with the other needlessly complicated analogies, but I forgot / should have explained that Lojban has a very logical structure where a word can have certain specific required or optional complements, e.g. IIRC the “expressing thanks” word would have a complement slot for (Target), a second slot for (what the thanks is for) and then one for (who is thanking the target) (defaults to speaker or provided by context), and in Lojban it’s perfectly normal to leave some slots empty for deliberate ambiguity/vagueness (but explicit ambiguity, unlike most natural languages).
So the reason I mentioned it is that this may be where I got this lack of any particular issue with empty/confused targets and could also be why my mind doesn’t seem to generate any aliefs from it as it seems yours might. There are other plausible explanations, but I doubt a test for that is feasible or relevant.