I’m not sure what (if any) action-relevant point you might be making. If this is supposed to make you less concerned about death, I’d point out that the thing to care about is your measure (as in quantum immortality), which is still greatly reduced.
E.g. choose (1% death, 99% totally fine) action instead of (0.1% paralyzed and in pain, 99.9% totally fine) action. Or something like that, your bad outcomes become not death but entrapment in suffering.
That leads you to always risk your life if there’s a slight chance it’ll make you feel better … Right? E.g. 2% death, 98% not just totally fine but actually happy, etc., all the way to 99.99% death, 0.01% super duper happy
Well, let’s reason step by step. I certainly never died before*. This post proposes that i will never die in the future. But i certainly experienced quite bad states, really really repulsive ones. Not sure about happy ones, i think don’t actually endorse pulling myself towards any state such described? I kinda want normal, neutral state. Like, it’s as if i have states i strongly want to avoid, but no states i want to go into.
Alsooo, this post kind of doesn’t explain why there is time or my apparent non existence in my past. Or what is the measure of me or why it’s should be compelling to preserve it/expand it. Or maybe it’s a force that should be a consideration in all tradeoffs, like, you want to be happy? But this thing pulling you towards to be smeared over large amount of branches. Or something. So you should think how it affects or trades off again things you want.
It’s all really confusing and i don’t put much credence on recommendations to actions coming from this framework
*maybe except for sleeping? and then got resurrected in my waking body?
Yea I’m not really trying to make any action-relevant point, just pointing out that if we accept three premises which are not that uncommonly held here on LessWrong we get something weird. Also if anything this makes me more scared of death since I would have no idea or control of how I am “respawned” and by whom.
And FWIW I’m skeptical of the reduced measure response to quantum immortality, it feels like cope to me. I don’t intuitively see why I should not care about my anticipated experiences more than some mathematical construct.
Makes sense! And yeah, IDK, I think the concept of ‘measure’ is pretty confusing itself and not super convincing to me, but if you think through the alternatives, they seem even less satisfying.
I’m not sure what (if any) action-relevant point you might be making. If this is supposed to make you less concerned about death, I’d point out that the thing to care about is your measure (as in quantum immortality), which is still greatly reduced.
E.g. choose (1% death, 99% totally fine) action instead of (0.1% paralyzed and in pain, 99.9% totally fine) action. Or something like that, your bad outcomes become not death but entrapment in suffering.
That leads you to always risk your life if there’s a slight chance it’ll make you feel better … Right? E.g. 2% death, 98% not just totally fine but actually happy, etc., all the way to 99.99% death, 0.01% super duper happy
Well, let’s reason step by step. I certainly never died before*. This post proposes that i will never die in the future. But i certainly experienced quite bad states, really really repulsive ones. Not sure about happy ones, i think don’t actually endorse pulling myself towards any state such described? I kinda want normal, neutral state. Like, it’s as if i have states i strongly want to avoid, but no states i want to go into.
Alsooo, this post kind of doesn’t explain why there is time or my apparent non existence in my past. Or what is the measure of me or why it’s should be compelling to preserve it/expand it. Or maybe it’s a force that should be a consideration in all tradeoffs, like, you want to be happy? But this thing pulling you towards to be smeared over large amount of branches. Or something. So you should think how it affects or trades off again things you want.
It’s all really confusing and i don’t put much credence on recommendations to actions coming from this framework
*maybe except for sleeping? and then got resurrected in my waking body?
Yea I’m not really trying to make any action-relevant point, just pointing out that if we accept three premises which are not that uncommonly held here on LessWrong we get something weird. Also if anything this makes me more scared of death since I would have no idea or control of how I am “respawned” and by whom.
And FWIW I’m skeptical of the reduced measure response to quantum immortality, it feels like cope to me. I don’t intuitively see why I should not care about my anticipated experiences more than some mathematical construct.
Makes sense! And yeah, IDK, I think the concept of ‘measure’ is pretty confusing itself and not super convincing to me, but if you think through the alternatives, they seem even less satisfying.