To say something somewhat controversial, while I disprove of Eugine’s mass downvoteing, it really isn’t that bad compared to the standard of discourse and dirty tactics used elsewhere. On reddit the site admins have allegedly been altering the votes and engaging in censorship; there has also been doxing and blackmail. Offline you could be fired, beaten up, or even, in extremis, killed for having the wrong political views, and I’m not just talking about people who live in a warzone or North Korea—the same thing does happen, albeit less frequently, in the US or UK.
I think Eugine thinks he is just trying to go tit for tat against the left. This isn’t a justification I agree with—I think LW should be held to a higher standard than reddit - but I can see how it would make sense from his point of view.
Some of Eugine’s mass-downvoting is obviously aimed at (what he considers) the pinko commie social justice warrior betas of LW. But there’s a more obvious explanation for his attacking Elo: Elo is a mod and keeps banning Eugine-sockpuppets, and is therefore The Enemy.
I think people are in charge of their own destiny; which is kinda capitalist-libertarian leaning. I know that not everyone is dealt the same hand in life, but I am not personally motivated to change that. I think success is hard but can be worked on.
I have strong pro- voluntary euthenasia choice views, and it’s the only thing I have ever been active about (which I am being active about now, but not on LW).
I am certainly not part of any clear and obvious party group that could be identified. On top of that I am not even in america, so trying to fight me on the internet is relatively irrelevant to an american.
(not sure if this answers your question/reason for asking—can you be more specific?)
Elo is a mod and keeps banning Eugine-sockpuppets, and is therefore The Enemy.
Other mods before my mod-time imposed a ban on Eugine for sock-puppet voting behaviour and then proceeded to let him post when he made new accounts/ the period of identifying a new Eugine takes time so his posts would stay up for weeks at a time. Also if you ban an account without deleting the posts then his mark stays. I stepped in and won’t let any of his posts stand more than a day because he is banned, he also has a habit of posting in identifiable ways, repeatedly—up to 10 times, trying to post literally the same thing. Him Posting is just him trying to break the ban. Which STILL STANDS FOR REASONS OF ONGOING SOCK PUPPET VOTING.
If he came back, didn’t sockpuppet, and picked a new alias—we probably wouldn’t know. But idiots with a vengence… It’s relatively easy to work out who he is when he posts, or sockpuppet downvotes. We are working on a reverse-downvote solution. I don’t have any interest in pressuring Dev volunteers so it will happen when it happens. Feel free to PM me if you want to join the development of a solution. I think python is the language it will be happening in.
To say something somewhat controversial, while I disprove of Eugine’s mass downvoteing, it really isn’t that bad compared to the standard of discourse and dirty tactics used elsewhere. On reddit the site admins have allegedly been altering the votes and engaging in censorship; there has also been doxing and blackmail. Offline you could be fired, beaten up, or even, in extremis, killed for having the wrong political views, and I’m not just talking about people who live in a warzone or North Korea—the same thing does happen, albeit less frequently, in the US or UK.
I think Eugine thinks he is just trying to go tit for tat against the left. This isn’t a justification I agree with—I think LW should be held to a higher standard than reddit - but I can see how it would make sense from his point of view.
Some of Eugine’s mass-downvoting is obviously aimed at (what he considers) the pinko commie social justice warrior betas of LW. But there’s a more obvious explanation for his attacking Elo: Elo is a mod and keeps banning Eugine-sockpuppets, and is therefore The Enemy.
except I am not the left!
You might be when compared to Eugine.
What would you say your political views are?
I mostly don’t have any.
I think people are in charge of their own destiny; which is kinda capitalist-libertarian leaning. I know that not everyone is dealt the same hand in life, but I am not personally motivated to change that. I think success is hard but can be worked on.
I have strong pro- voluntary euthenasia choice views, and it’s the only thing I have ever been active about (which I am being active about now, but not on LW).
I am certainly not part of any clear and obvious party group that could be identified. On top of that I am not even in america, so trying to fight me on the internet is relatively irrelevant to an american.
(not sure if this answers your question/reason for asking—can you be more specific?)
Its a good enough answer, although I was wondering what you had said to annoy Eugine so much.
Of course, on some issues, libertarian positions agree with SJW positions, so maybe Eugine thinks you are more left-wing then you really are?
yep. What gjm said.
Other mods before my mod-time imposed a ban on Eugine for sock-puppet voting behaviour and then proceeded to let him post when he made new accounts/ the period of identifying a new Eugine takes time so his posts would stay up for weeks at a time. Also if you ban an account without deleting the posts then his mark stays. I stepped in and won’t let any of his posts stand more than a day because he is banned, he also has a habit of posting in identifiable ways, repeatedly—up to 10 times, trying to post literally the same thing. Him Posting is just him trying to break the ban. Which STILL STANDS FOR REASONS OF ONGOING SOCK PUPPET VOTING.
If he came back, didn’t sockpuppet, and picked a new alias—we probably wouldn’t know. But idiots with a vengence… It’s relatively easy to work out who he is when he posts, or sockpuppet downvotes. We are working on a reverse-downvote solution. I don’t have any interest in pressuring Dev volunteers so it will happen when it happens. Feel free to PM me if you want to join the development of a solution. I think python is the language it will be happening in.
I hadn’t noticed until now, but I haven’t seen any Eugine sockpuppets in a while, and it sounds like that’s due to you.
Thank you.