I don’t think AIs are able to produce the product that is being sold at all, because the product contains the causal chain that produced it. This is a preference that naturally generates AI-resistant jobs, as long as the people who hold it can themselves pay for the things. I mean, you might be able to value drift the people involved away if you experience machine at them hard enough, but it seems like as long as what they’re doing is trying to ensure a physically extant biological being who is a furry made the thing and not the thing is high sensory intensity at furry-related features, it seems like it would actually resist that.
Now, like, you propose preference falsification. If that’s the case, I’m wrong. I currently think I’m right at like, 70% or so.
I think you’re right: I have heard this claimed widely about Art, that part of the product and its value is the story of who made it, when and why, who’s in it, who commissioned it, who previously owned it, and so forth. This is probably more true at the expensive pinnacles of the Art market, but it’s still going to apply within specific subcultures. That’s why forgeries are disliked: objectively they look just like the original artist’s work, but the story component is a lie.
More generally, luxury goods have a namber of weird economic properties, one of which is that there’s a requirement that they be rare. Consider the relative value of natural diamonds or other gemstones, vs synthetic ones that are objectively of higher clarity and purity with fewer inclusions: the latter is an objectively better product but people are willing to pay a lot less for it. People pay a lot more for the former, because they’re ’natural”, which is really because they’re rare and this a luxury/status symbol. I think this is an extension of my category 5. — rather then the human artist acting as your status symbol in person as I described above, a piece of their art that you commissioned and took them a couple of days to make just for you is hanging on your wall (or hiding in your bedroom closet, as the case may be).
There are basically three reasons to own a piece of art: 1) that’s nice to look at 2) I feel proud of owning it 3) other people will think better of me because I have it and show it off The background story doesn’t affect 1), but it’s important for 2) and 3).
This might also be part of why there’s a tendency for famous artists to be colorful characters: that enhances the story part of the value of their art.
I don’t think AIs are able to produce the product that is being sold at all, because the product contains the causal chain that produced it. This is a preference that naturally generates AI-resistant jobs, as long as the people who hold it can themselves pay for the things. I mean, you might be able to value drift the people involved away if you experience machine at them hard enough, but it seems like as long as what they’re doing is trying to ensure a physically extant biological being who is a furry made the thing and not the thing is high sensory intensity at furry-related features, it seems like it would actually resist that.
Now, like, you propose preference falsification. If that’s the case, I’m wrong. I currently think I’m right at like, 70% or so.
I think you’re right: I have heard this claimed widely about Art, that part of the product and its value is the story of who made it, when and why, who’s in it, who commissioned it, who previously owned it, and so forth. This is probably more true at the expensive pinnacles of the Art market, but it’s still going to apply within specific subcultures. That’s why forgeries are disliked: objectively they look just like the original artist’s work, but the story component is a lie.
More generally, luxury goods have a namber of weird economic properties, one of which is that there’s a requirement that they be rare. Consider the relative value of natural diamonds or other gemstones, vs synthetic ones that are objectively of higher clarity and purity with fewer inclusions: the latter is an objectively better product but people are willing to pay a lot less for it. People pay a lot more for the former, because they’re ’natural”, which is really because they’re rare and this a luxury/status symbol. I think this is an extension of my category 5. — rather then the human artist acting as your status symbol in person as I described above, a piece of their art that you commissioned and took them a couple of days to make just for you is hanging on your wall (or hiding in your bedroom closet, as the case may be).
There are basically three reasons to own a piece of art:
1) that’s nice to look at
2) I feel proud of owning it
3) other people will think better of me because I have it and show it off
The background story doesn’t affect 1), but it’s important for 2) and 3).
This might also be part of why there’s a tendency for famous artists to be colorful characters: that enhances the story part of the value of their art.
In my attempted summary of the discussion, I rolled this into Category 5.