Yeah, you’re right, that is what my point boils down to. I think it’s a bad viewpoint to advocate one’s tribe endorse publicly independent of whether one believes it’s true.
Maybe you can consider LW a non-public space, as far as “speaking candid thoughts”, and you’d have better data than me. But for example, I can promise you that if I try to send this post to the average persuadable ML person, they will basically check out when they read something like that. And that’s a real concrete cost, that shouldn’t just be waived away with “but I think it’s true and thus to promote good communication norms I should let that belief be public.”
Yeah, you’re right, that is what my point boils down to. I think it’s a bad viewpoint to advocate one’s tribe endorse publicly independent of whether one believes it’s true.
Maybe you can consider LW a non-public space, as far as “speaking candid thoughts”, and you’d have better data than me. But for example, I can promise you that if I try to send this post to the average persuadable ML person, they will basically check out when they read something like that. And that’s a real concrete cost, that shouldn’t just be waived away with “but I think it’s true and thus to promote good communication norms I should let that belief be public.”
Oh. I do. Why don’t you?