First question- Given the facts in the HPMOR universe, why do you think Hermoine’s death is inevitable?
Second question- Why do you not take the criticism of mourning as merely a form of signalling into account? Harry could easily argue that if he did mourn and move on he is being disloyal to Hermoine if there is even a 1% chance of sucess.
Third question- Even if you ignore all that, isn’t actually investigating more important right now than mourning? Whoever killed Hermoine could be a long-term enemy- even if they aren’t, bringing them to justice is almost certainly a Good Thing and given Harry’s cunning a worthy use of his time.
Hmm, an expensive post. I better make it long then.
First question: I don’t think her death is inevitable, I think it has already happened. Author has stated that this story isn’t about tricking the readers. So I’m taking her death and her corpses disappearance at face value. Harry has watched her die, watched the time turner limit run out. Her death is as much a part of history as his parent’s.
He doesn’t even have her brain. His goal isn’t her resurrection, if he’s being honest, its her re-creation. He has his memories of her. From this, with magic, he intends to once again have a working mind.
Magic can do anything, so this isn’t perhaps as preposterous as it seems, but the order of probability of him succeeding at creating a new and identical Hermione seems to be the same whether he does it now or some future wizard gets it done in a century or two as part of a “resurrect everyone who ever died” project.
If he thinks that magic will one day be able to make new people just like those who have died, or time travel beyond the turner’s limits, then there’s no rush.
Second question: I took it into account, it seemed plausible while he was waiting by her body, still striving to help her. Dumbledore and the other adult’s inaction during this time was inexcusable. His frantic efforts to save her were heroic.
But now she’s gone. So, what to do?
Well, I figured initially that Harry could dispense with grieving. After all, as his plan is currently, one day he’ll make a new Hermione. He presumably won’t make her such that she’ll miss this period.
But its become clear (to me, that is, this is obviously jmho) that, for Harry, in this instance, declining to grieve has just thrown his emotions out of order. He’s...I don’t know, flailing seems like the right word. He’s doing things that a previous version of him would recognize as anti-rational.
Harry is turning himself into someone Hermione would loathe in order to make a new version of her. He’s declaring that he’ll vanquish death one moment and then musing on how he’ll murder his enemies the next. He’s creeping around in an invisibility cloak begging aid from his classmates and then looking down on them for being too dumb to take compensation. (That’s unfair for the sake of completing the pattern, but there’s actually something way off about someone who doesn’t want to be locateable, but still wants the benefits of civilization) He’s… I dunno, the word that comes to mind is parody.
Third question: I would agree with you that investigating is much more important than mourning. I disagree that what he’s doing is investigating.
His current behavior strikes me as being in line with demanding that his comrades be given all of the magic items, and likely to be similarly effective at preventing any future tragedies his enemy wishes to visit upon him.
I think grieving, if it gave him back his rationality, would be more valuable than what he’s currently doing, but less valuable than investigating.
“Her death has already happened.”—You say that like it’s a thing that can’t be reversed. There are people alive today who have been dead—or at least, declared brain-dead by doctors.
Harry is behaving rationally. The problem is that he’s behaving, for good reasons, in a way very similar to how people behave for bad reasons. His entire character arc takes him further and further into territory where he has no gauge to tell whether he’s gone mad.
First question- Given the facts in the HPMOR universe, why do you think Hermoine’s death is inevitable?
Second question- Why do you not take the criticism of mourning as merely a form of signalling into account? Harry could easily argue that if he did mourn and move on he is being disloyal to Hermoine if there is even a 1% chance of sucess.
Third question- Even if you ignore all that, isn’t actually investigating more important right now than mourning? Whoever killed Hermoine could be a long-term enemy- even if they aren’t, bringing them to justice is almost certainly a Good Thing and given Harry’s cunning a worthy use of his time.
Hmm, an expensive post. I better make it long then.
First question: I don’t think her death is inevitable, I think it has already happened. Author has stated that this story isn’t about tricking the readers. So I’m taking her death and her corpses disappearance at face value. Harry has watched her die, watched the time turner limit run out. Her death is as much a part of history as his parent’s.
He doesn’t even have her brain. His goal isn’t her resurrection, if he’s being honest, its her re-creation. He has his memories of her. From this, with magic, he intends to once again have a working mind.
Magic can do anything, so this isn’t perhaps as preposterous as it seems, but the order of probability of him succeeding at creating a new and identical Hermione seems to be the same whether he does it now or some future wizard gets it done in a century or two as part of a “resurrect everyone who ever died” project.
If he thinks that magic will one day be able to make new people just like those who have died, or time travel beyond the turner’s limits, then there’s no rush.
Second question: I took it into account, it seemed plausible while he was waiting by her body, still striving to help her. Dumbledore and the other adult’s inaction during this time was inexcusable. His frantic efforts to save her were heroic.
But now she’s gone. So, what to do?
Well, I figured initially that Harry could dispense with grieving. After all, as his plan is currently, one day he’ll make a new Hermione. He presumably won’t make her such that she’ll miss this period.
But its become clear (to me, that is, this is obviously jmho) that, for Harry, in this instance, declining to grieve has just thrown his emotions out of order. He’s...I don’t know, flailing seems like the right word. He’s doing things that a previous version of him would recognize as anti-rational.
Harry is turning himself into someone Hermione would loathe in order to make a new version of her. He’s declaring that he’ll vanquish death one moment and then musing on how he’ll murder his enemies the next. He’s creeping around in an invisibility cloak begging aid from his classmates and then looking down on them for being too dumb to take compensation. (That’s unfair for the sake of completing the pattern, but there’s actually something way off about someone who doesn’t want to be locateable, but still wants the benefits of civilization) He’s… I dunno, the word that comes to mind is parody.
Third question: I would agree with you that investigating is much more important than mourning. I disagree that what he’s doing is investigating.
His current behavior strikes me as being in line with demanding that his comrades be given all of the magic items, and likely to be similarly effective at preventing any future tragedies his enemy wishes to visit upon him.
I think grieving, if it gave him back his rationality, would be more valuable than what he’s currently doing, but less valuable than investigating.
Thanks for reading.
“Her death has already happened.”—You say that like it’s a thing that can’t be reversed. There are people alive today who have been dead—or at least, declared brain-dead by doctors.
Harry is behaving rationally. The problem is that he’s behaving, for good reasons, in a way very similar to how people behave for bad reasons. His entire character arc takes him further and further into territory where he has no gauge to tell whether he’s gone mad.