I have, in fact, given the model. Or at the very least, the generators needed and some instructions on how to build the model.
The problem is, your type signature for “model” is too low-dimensional.
…which, ironically, is literally the thing being pointed at. If you could generate more dimensions to the type of thing you’re tagging as “model”, you would be doing the thing.
Yay self-referential puzzles.
Can you imagine what it would have been like to be literally the first human to suddenly GET language? How it would have felt to try to get your fellow human beings to try language? How it would have felt a bit like it does today to talk to animals? And how insanely relieving and transcendently amazing it would be once another person GETS language and you two can have A CONVERSATION?
…and meanwhile, your non-talking tribe mates are grunting and doing ape politics and thinking you and your friend are making weird sounds and aren’t doing anything.
A dear friend of mine was with me when my kensho struck, and we were able to Look at each other. From that moment on, coordination has been trivial. He’ll go into spirals of deep depression sometimes, and I’ll be able to sit with him, caring but basically unaffected in terms of our ability to sync up. Others who care for him but haven’t had shared Looking cannot keep up with this pace, and I end up needing to support them. Which is fine and good; it’s in service of a much greater cause, and I’m happy to use my resources to pull this off. And I can give pointers to those other supporters — often about how they can be more fully themselves and kind to themselves as the means of giving support. (One person exclaimed after something like the fourth time I helped her find her own inner sense of stability, “How do you KNOW this stuff?”)
The model is really quite easy to give to you once you know how to Look.
I haven’t a damn clue how to give you a model before that.
…with apologies. I really would love to be able to.
Where exactly? Are you talking about this essay or some previous one?
The problem is, your type signature for “model” is too low-dimensional.
Can you give me a model of the correct type signature of models? Or is it Kensho all the way down?
I want an explantion on my own terms. It doesn’t have to a perfect explanation, maybe there are things which are ineffable or unknowable or whatever (although one can ask what does it mean to say that they “are”), but it has to be something like the best approximation possible in my language.
Is Kensho amenable to mathematical description? If not, how is it possible, given that your brain understands Kensho and your brain is governed by mathematical laws? Or, do you claim to have discovered new physics? I understand that the map is not the territory and understanding a mathematical model is not the same thing as experiencing something first hand, but all I’m asking for is the 3rd party perspective.
Okay. What is a “mathematical description”? What does it mean that “your brain is governed by mathematical laws”? How and where are those facts encoded, such that you emit those words?
I have, in fact, given the model. Or at the very least, the generators needed and some instructions on how to build the model.
The problem is, your type signature for “model” is too low-dimensional.
…which, ironically, is literally the thing being pointed at. If you could generate more dimensions to the type of thing you’re tagging as “model”, you would be doing the thing.
Yay self-referential puzzles.
Can you imagine what it would have been like to be literally the first human to suddenly GET language? How it would have felt to try to get your fellow human beings to try language? How it would have felt a bit like it does today to talk to animals? And how insanely relieving and transcendently amazing it would be once another person GETS language and you two can have A CONVERSATION?
…and meanwhile, your non-talking tribe mates are grunting and doing ape politics and thinking you and your friend are making weird sounds and aren’t doing anything.
A dear friend of mine was with me when my kensho struck, and we were able to Look at each other. From that moment on, coordination has been trivial. He’ll go into spirals of deep depression sometimes, and I’ll be able to sit with him, caring but basically unaffected in terms of our ability to sync up. Others who care for him but haven’t had shared Looking cannot keep up with this pace, and I end up needing to support them. Which is fine and good; it’s in service of a much greater cause, and I’m happy to use my resources to pull this off. And I can give pointers to those other supporters — often about how they can be more fully themselves and kind to themselves as the means of giving support. (One person exclaimed after something like the fourth time I helped her find her own inner sense of stability, “How do you KNOW this stuff?”)
The model is really quite easy to give to you once you know how to Look.
I haven’t a damn clue how to give you a model before that.
…with apologies. I really would love to be able to.
Where exactly? Are you talking about this essay or some previous one?
Can you give me a model of the correct type signature of models? Or is it Kensho all the way down?
I want an explantion on my own terms. It doesn’t have to a perfect explanation, maybe there are things which are ineffable or unknowable or whatever (although one can ask what does it mean to say that they “are”), but it has to be something like the best approximation possible in my language.
Is Kensho amenable to mathematical description? If not, how is it possible, given that your brain understands Kensho and your brain is governed by mathematical laws? Or, do you claim to have discovered new physics? I understand that the map is not the territory and understanding a mathematical model is not the same thing as experiencing something first hand, but all I’m asking for is the 3rd party perspective.
Okay. What is a “mathematical description”? What does it mean that “your brain is governed by mathematical laws”? How and where are those facts encoded, such that you emit those words?