The problem with your example is that I don’t work on FAI, I work on certain topics of philosophical interest to me that happen to be relevant to FAI theory. If I were interested in actually building an FAI, I’d definitely want a secure source of funding for a whole team to work on it full time, and a building to work in. It seems implausible that that’s not a big improvement (in likelihood of success) over a bunch of volunteers working part time and just collaborating over the Internet.
More generally, money tends to be useful for getting anything accomplished. You seem to be saying that FAI is an exception, and I really don’t understand why… Or are you just saying that SIAI in particular is doing a bad job with the money that it’s getting? If that’s the case, why not offer some constructive suggestions instead of just making “digs” at it?
I don’t believe FAI is ready to be an engineering project. As Richard Hamming would put it, “we do not have an attack”. You can’t build a 747 before some hobbyist invents the first flyer. The “throw money and people at it” approach has been tried many times with AGI, how is FAI different? I think right now most progress should come from people like you, satisfying their personal interest. As for the best use of SIAI money, I’d use Givewell to get rid of it, or just throw some parties and have fun all around, because money isn’t the limiting factor in making math breakthroughs happen.
I think right now most progress should come from people like you, satisfying their personal interest.
I think the problem with that is that most people have multiple interests, or their interests can shift (perhaps subconsciously) based on considerations of money and status. FAI-related fields have to compete with other fields for a small pool of highly capable researchers, and the lack of money and status (which would come with funding) does not help.
I don’t believe FAI is ready to be an engineering project.
Me either, but I think that one, SIAI can use the money to support FAI-related research in the mean time, and two, given that time is not on our side, it seems like a good idea to build up the necessary institutional infrastructure to support FAI as an engineering project, just in case someone makes an unexpected theoretical breakthrough.
The problem with your example is that I don’t work on FAI, I work on certain topics of philosophical interest to me that happen to be relevant to FAI theory. If I were interested in actually building an FAI, I’d definitely want a secure source of funding for a whole team to work on it full time, and a building to work in. It seems implausible that that’s not a big improvement (in likelihood of success) over a bunch of volunteers working part time and just collaborating over the Internet.
More generally, money tends to be useful for getting anything accomplished. You seem to be saying that FAI is an exception, and I really don’t understand why… Or are you just saying that SIAI in particular is doing a bad job with the money that it’s getting? If that’s the case, why not offer some constructive suggestions instead of just making “digs” at it?
I don’t believe FAI is ready to be an engineering project. As Richard Hamming would put it, “we do not have an attack”. You can’t build a 747 before some hobbyist invents the first flyer. The “throw money and people at it” approach has been tried many times with AGI, how is FAI different? I think right now most progress should come from people like you, satisfying their personal interest. As for the best use of SIAI money, I’d use Givewell to get rid of it, or just throw some parties and have fun all around, because money isn’t the limiting factor in making math breakthroughs happen.
I think the problem with that is that most people have multiple interests, or their interests can shift (perhaps subconsciously) based on considerations of money and status. FAI-related fields have to compete with other fields for a small pool of highly capable researchers, and the lack of money and status (which would come with funding) does not help.
Me either, but I think that one, SIAI can use the money to support FAI-related research in the mean time, and two, given that time is not on our side, it seems like a good idea to build up the necessary institutional infrastructure to support FAI as an engineering project, just in case someone makes an unexpected theoretical breakthrough.