The underlying issue is what we take the purpose of debate or discussion to be. Here we consider discourse to be prior to justified belief; the intent is to reveal the reasonable views to hold, and then update our beliefs.
If there is a desire to justify some specific belief as an end in itself, then the rules of logical politeness are null; they have no meaning to you as you’re not looking to find truth, per se, but to defend an existing position. You have to admit that you could in principle be wrong, and that is a step that, by observation, most people do not make on most issues.
This is clearly exacerbated on issues where beliefs have been pre-formed by the point at which people learn the trappings of logical argument; heuristic internal beliefs are most likely to be defended in this fashion. The only community standard that seems to be required is that people are willing, or preferably eager, to update f the evidence or balance of argument (given limited cognition) changes.
The only community standard that seems to be required is that people are willing, or preferably eager, to update if the evidence or balance of argument (given limited cognition) changes.
Or that people endorse that idea in the abstract enough to adopt standards about logical rudeness which can be recognized and applied in the heat of argument. People are less likely to evade that way if they know everyone else will say “you lost”.
The underlying issue is what we take the purpose of debate or discussion to be. Here we consider discourse to be prior to justified belief; the intent is to reveal the reasonable views to hold, and then update our beliefs.
If there is a desire to justify some specific belief as an end in itself, then the rules of logical politeness are null; they have no meaning to you as you’re not looking to find truth, per se, but to defend an existing position. You have to admit that you could in principle be wrong, and that is a step that, by observation, most people do not make on most issues.
This is clearly exacerbated on issues where beliefs have been pre-formed by the point at which people learn the trappings of logical argument; heuristic internal beliefs are most likely to be defended in this fashion. The only community standard that seems to be required is that people are willing, or preferably eager, to update f the evidence or balance of argument (given limited cognition) changes.
Or that people endorse that idea in the abstract enough to adopt standards about logical rudeness which can be recognized and applied in the heat of argument. People are less likely to evade that way if they know everyone else will say “you lost”.