So you don’t think you could catch up? If you had been frozen somewhere between −10000 and −100 years and revived now, don’t you think you could start learning what the heck it is people are doing and understand nowadays? Besides a lot of the pre-freeze life-experience would be fully applicable to present. Everyone starts learning from the point of birth. You’d have headway compared to those who just start out from nothing.
There are things we can meaningfully contribute to even in a Sysop universe, filled with Minds. We, after all, are minds, too, which have the inherent quality of creativity—creating new, evermore elegant and intricate patterns—at whatever our level is, and self-improvement; optimization.
No, you couldn’t. Someone from 8,000BC would not stand a chance if they were revived now. The compassionate thing to do, really, would be to thaw them out and bury them.
Yes, they would be worse off than children. Don’t underestimate the importance of development when it comes to the brain.
Minds don’t have the “inherent quality of creativity”. Autistics are the obvious counterexample.
if I could create a VPOP that did not have subjective experience (or the confusion we name subjective experience)
The confusion we name subjective experience? TBH Eli, that sounds like neomystical crap. See below.
I have never come across anyone who could present a coherent and intelligible definition for the word that didn’t automatically render the referent non-existent.
Qualia are neural representations of certain data. They can induce other neurological states, creating what we know as the first-person. So what? I don’t see why so called reductionists quibble over this so much. They exist, just get over it and study it if you really want to.
So you don’t think you could catch up? If you had been frozen somewhere between −10000 and −100 years and revived now, don’t you think you could start learning what the heck it is people are doing and understand nowadays? Besides a lot of the pre-freeze life-experience would be fully applicable to present. Everyone starts learning from the point of birth. You’d have headway compared to those who just start out from nothing.
There are things we can meaningfully contribute to even in a Sysop universe, filled with Minds. We, after all, are minds, too, which have the inherent quality of creativity—creating new, evermore elegant and intricate patterns—at whatever our level is, and self-improvement; optimization.
No, you couldn’t. Someone from 8,000BC would not stand a chance if they were revived now. The compassionate thing to do, really, would be to thaw them out and bury them.
Yes, they would be worse off than children. Don’t underestimate the importance of development when it comes to the brain.
Minds don’t have the “inherent quality of creativity”. Autistics are the obvious counterexample.
if I could create a VPOP that did not have subjective experience (or the confusion we name subjective experience)
The confusion we name subjective experience? TBH Eli, that sounds like neomystical crap. See below.
I have never come across anyone who could present a coherent and intelligible definition for the word that didn’t automatically render the referent non-existent.
Qualia are neural representations of certain data. They can induce other neurological states, creating what we know as the first-person. So what? I don’t see why so called reductionists quibble over this so much. They exist, just get over it and study it if you really want to.